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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8th 1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black it's your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy judge on the game changer network

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uh yeah man today's tuesday september

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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changer and x networks i'm your host

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jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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big show tonight because we welcome very

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timothy hogan grand master of the

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knights templar

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another first-time guest that's two this

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he is here to share some of the secrets

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i'm gonna try to get all of them

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of the templar

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tomorrow night richard dodie right here

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on this program

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going to be talking about the misinfo

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disinfo that may be going on right now

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in ufology in our community what is

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he's the best person to talk to about

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one of the new uh fender uh

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line but it's got humbuckers it's got a

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on it he says man

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come this weekend

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after three equal payments this baby is

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that's fast times at richmond high but i

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good looking guitar jason right on the

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sandbox is hashtag f2b on twitter we

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don't bite come and hang out with us

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over there if you've got the courage go

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and join one of the chat rooms but uh

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proceed at your own risk i'm just i'm

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just telling you right now

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genocide bill they got their hands full

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every single night thank you to all the

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all right all right let's get to the

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breaking news sad news today to report

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jazz great and pianist

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ramsey lewis died yesterday at his home

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in chicago he was 87 years old ramsay

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changed the world man he spent nearly 60

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years recording and performing original

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jazz music but had one

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the biggest hit of the year

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1965 with that hit the in crowd

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he won three grammys scored seven gold

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records and in 2007 was named a national

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endowment of the arts jazz master the

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highest honor bestowed upon jazz

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musicians in the united states today i

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went and watched a bunch of live

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of uh the in crowd

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what a powerful song powerful powerful

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ramsey lewis

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rest in peace amazing well earlier today

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twitter shareholders voted in favor of

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today the company's stock opened at just

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per share nearly 25 below the deal price

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seeking to terminate their deal

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million dollar severance payment that

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security uh pider zatko who later blew

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packages that are blown up or inflated i

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it's ever going to happen at this point

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because a security consultant firm has

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identified a sophisticated relay attack

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that lets just two thieves unlock a

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start the engine

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in just a matter of seconds now this is

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how they do it you have one individual

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one thief one criminal

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to be near the tesla owner with their

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their key card i'm not making this up

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while the other

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waits by the target tesla

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right with the device designed to pick

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up the data from their accomplice who's

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inside the the coffee shop with the

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tesla owner you know what i'm saying

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this attack according to the consulting

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firm i o active is a flaw in the

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software update tesla released in 2021

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that eliminates the need for

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the owners to place that key card on the

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center console

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to change the vehicle's gears

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after the thief drives off with the

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stolen tesla they cannot turn off the

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engine

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nope because they won't be able to

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restart it but while

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the engine's running they're good and

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then they don't have the original key

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card but you can add a new key card at

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some point while the engine is running

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the doofus

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who fatally shot john lennon back in

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1980 has been denied parole for a 12th

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time chapman who was serving 20 years to

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life uh at green haven correctional

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facility in new york appeared before the

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parole board on august 31st

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chapman has sought parole every two

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years since the year 2000 when he was

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and he'll remain in prison for at least

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and then he'll be eligible to seek

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parole again the department has not yet

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released the transcript from chapman's

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most recent parole hearing

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the death of another

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russian energy executive over the

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weekend

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adds to a long list of mysterious deaths

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of high-powered national businessmen

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since the february 24th invasion of

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ukraine his name

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ivan picorin 39 years old managing

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director of the corporation for the

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development of the far east and the

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arctic

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allegedly

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fell off a boat

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that's right he died saturday near ruski

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island in the sea of japan and russia

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um about 5 800 miles east of moscow

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that's right fell off a boat

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let's get this show cracking on this day

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in history otd

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you remember this 2004

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oprah gives away

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296 new cars a brand new pontiac g6

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sedan worth twenty eight thousand five

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hundred dollars

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gave one away to everyone in her studio

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audience you remember everyone gets a

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car everybody gets a car you remember

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that

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well the car was free

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but the irs collected six grand for each

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one

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there you go fader fact here you go

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now i

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wonder i wonder if timothy hogan knows

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this

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ketchup

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that's right

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ketchup

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wasn't poured on hamburgers

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until the 20th century

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prior to that

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it was sold as a cure for indigestion

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diarrhea

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and jaundice

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and that

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is your favorite fact there's another

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rumor the templars brought ketchup over

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from jerusalem yeah snuck it into the

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united states i'm glad they did it

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that's the only condiment

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on on my burgers

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ketchup and mustard sometimes

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sometimes mayo depends on my mood but i

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can't do a burger without ketchup

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and i have no indigestion

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no diarrhea

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and no jaundice

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all right

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tonight very special guest timothy hogan

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is here he is the worldwide grand master

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of the night templar he's another first

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time guest and tonight

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he's gonna share some of those secrets

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i'll see what i can get out of them

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and uh

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uh

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you know with tim here's the thing

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i don't think we're gonna hear from tim

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ah i've got an nda can't talk about that

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i don't think that's what's going to

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happen

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so let's see what we can do tomorrow

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night richard dodie is back

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and uh a lot of misinfo this info i

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think is going around right now

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in uh ufology in the ufo community and

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and i reached out to richard i said hey

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we got to talk about this he said

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absolutely jimmy

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something's smelly in denmark so we're

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going to do that tomorrow night

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thursday's another fader night with open

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lines all night long all right now it's

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time for me to hit this river moon

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the only coffee

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with my picture on it

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rivermoonwellness.com head right over

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there fade to black blend

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the game changer blend you can go to the

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amazon store you can go to the website

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you go to amazon free shipping if you're

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a prime member it's a great deal head

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over to the website use the promo code

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f2b blend you'll get 15 off of your

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order today

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they have been with us on this program

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for a very long time and juanita and

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jeff

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are fade or not to the core

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and uh

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i just can't say enough i'm so thankful

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for their sponsorship and their

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friendship

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fade to black blend it's the best coffee

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in the world seriously you should go to

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their website

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and check out how they make the coffee

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where they get the coffee how they

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source it

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um and

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and it's it's just done with morals and

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fade to black blend i like my coffee doc

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all right

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the knights

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templar

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i've been hearing about them since i was

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here's the deal

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when you

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go through

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at the age when i started to hear about

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the knights templar

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and

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what they wore

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right the shields the cross

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uh how do i say this

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there was mystery there was mystique

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but there was a big dose of i want to do

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that

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and you hear about

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uh

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their their

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their rules

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and and what it took

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and who they were

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that added to all of it

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right

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and so

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then you start to read and

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and i'm talking about a very young age

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and

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if you you find out about the crusades

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you

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um

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you read about how

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uh

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the support

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to get these

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pilgrimage

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to to jerusalem

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and and safe passage and and how

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uh brutal you know that journey was that

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just wasn't easy you're not just

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ticketing

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you know passage on on on some yacht or

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some boat and and heading over no it was

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it was something that you risked your

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life for and that's that's what the

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knights templar so you read that part of

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it

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and then you

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you swing it over and you start to get a

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little bit deeper into it

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and

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the

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uh quite a few uh different

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different countries in the world that

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that didn't dig what was going on there

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um

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00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:20,480
and so you hear about that part

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and then you hear

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you just do the deep dive

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00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:28,240
the banking system

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right now wait a minute what what did

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they do

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right they developed a banking system

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these guys are knights

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right

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banking systems

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and then you then you hear the stories

467
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about uh the pursuit of

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religious artifacts

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and you hear about this

470
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:57,200
and and what they found and how they

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00:24:01,750 --> 00:23:58,480
found it

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you know uh buried deep underneath uh

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00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:03,760
jerusalem under tunnels

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in tunnels under temples

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00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:08,240
you hear about that part

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00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,720
and then

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it's

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friday the 13th

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and you hear about not only that but

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immediately before that the

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the power

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that was incidental it comes along with

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it

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that the knights templar grew

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they started uh buying land

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um they had the banking institution

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there

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and they started to

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and and quite possibly possess some

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00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:44,400
secrets there's alchemy that was

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involved too as well which was a pursuit

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of every king and queen and and lord

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in europe uh to uh

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to get to these secrets of alchemy

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um there was religious artifacts and

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what is going to do

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what is going to happen with that the

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incidental it's called power

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can't have that

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and so friday the 13th comes along

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and we hear about that

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all of this when you look at uh the la

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and what happened you know what happened

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it couldn't have been a couple of dozen

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guys that's that's not the case

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so

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what happened to the wealth what

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happened to the artifacts what happened

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to the secrets

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um where did they go

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and where are they today

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you have all of that

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00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,840
and then there's this for me and i and

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i don't say this in a

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in a clandestine way or in a in a

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cavalier way clandestine maybe it's that

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too as well in a cavalier way then you

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have something like

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how the knights templar were starting to

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be portrayed

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in history books in the media in movies

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and

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the holy grail

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monty python

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the imaging that was there

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and

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now

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i understand this is this is history but

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did partial have it right

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okay

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and

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00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:34,320
monty python in the holy grail

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um and the imaging that was there

534
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:40,720
i sat back and went wait a minute

535
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:44,000
is this the knights templar which also

536
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:46,159
uh the story about the grill funniest

537
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movie ever in the history of everything

538
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,640
and i get that as well but a lot of

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00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:52,559
people saw that movie

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00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:55,840
and the idea of the grail

541
00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:58,480
impercival and uh

542
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:01,840
the the story of king arthur and was

543
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,159
this a combination of the knights

544
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:06,559
templar and how to tell the story

545
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:09,279
well it went worldwide

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00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:11,919
and that elevated the level

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00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,559
of the knights templar it's all about

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00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:16,159
marketing right

549
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:18,799
and it caused people to go back and look

550
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,320
at this and study it and i did the same

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00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,320
thing i thought that's that's what i

552
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,720
grew up with that's the knights templar

553
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:28,559
that's that's what's going on here and

554
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:33,600
then i went and i dived into every story

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00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:36,960
about king arthur i dove into everything

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00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:39,279
i could about the knights templar

557
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:41,919
um hollywood ended up releasing some

558
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:44,720
pretty big budget movies

559
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:47,279
uh about the knights and

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00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,279
and the rise and fall in and around

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00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:51,279
jerusalem and of course back over in

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00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,960
europe and uh friday the 13th and then

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00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,279
there's this

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00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,240
tim hogan is on with us tonight

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00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,399
and one of the things

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00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:04,320
that all of you know scott walter has

567
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:06,880
been on the show 10 20 30 40 times i

568
00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:07,919
don't know

569
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:08,799
and

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00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,320
diving into scott's brain

571
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:22,559
and and trying to figure out what is

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00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:26,880
going on and who was in america

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00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:28,080
before

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00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:31,520
the history books columbus of course but

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but but other versions of that

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and then scott

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starts telling me about tim hogan

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and

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at about the same time people that i

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trust people that i know people that i

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call friends

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00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:51,039
um started to mention tim's name

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and jimmy you've got an interest in this

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this

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00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:56,320
you need to talk to tim

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00:29:01,029 --> 00:28:59,440
so um a few months ago

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i uh

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i said scott tim hogan

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that's right i said okay

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00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:08,159
thumbs up right yes

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00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:09,760
here's the deal

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00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:13,200
this past weekend um i was able to sit

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down with tim

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and and pick his brain not only uh

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00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,039
for the tv show that i can't really talk

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00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:23,440
about right now but but there was that

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00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:24,640
part

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00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:26,399
but there were conversations that we had

599
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:28,320
leading up to that and then of course

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00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:30,880
dinner that went into the

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wee hours of the morning

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00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:36,960
and his knowledge on so many subjects um

603
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:38,720
is extreme

604
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:42,880
and i asked him if he could go ahead and

605
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:44,799
come on the show tonight

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00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:46,880
and let's discuss these things and he

607
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:47,760
said

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00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:49,600
absolutely

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00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:52,320
no limits i said okay let's go

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00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,120
so that is my interest

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00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:57,600
into the knights templar i have spent a

612
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:01,760
life i'm 58 years old looking into this

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building up questions wondering what is

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00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:06,880
going on i've done so many shows on this

615
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:10,720
in the past and and tonight is uh one of

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00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:12,960
many that we're going to do with tim

617
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:14,480
but stay put

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get ready tonight timothy hogan grand

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master worldwide of the knights templar

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is here he's a first time guest and

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tonight it is the secrets of the templar

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tomorrow night richard doty is with us

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miss info dis info in ufology and our

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community what is going on richard will

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be with us tomorrow night to talk about

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that and then of course thursday night

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is another fader night with open lines

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all night long i'm here with jimmy

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you're listening to jimmy

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what's up chris what up this is jimmy

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church radio

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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yours jimmy church tonight timothy hogan

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grand master of the knights templar

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worldwide joins us to for the first time

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talk about the secrets of the templar

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he is the worldwide grandmaster for the

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knights templar otsi

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and he runs the templar collegia in

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conjunction with it

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he has been knighted in france uh to the

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order of the parsley and the dove

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united in scotland into the order of the

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saint andrews and into the royal order

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00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:25,839
of scotland he has also been knighted as

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a gold star sir knight of the knights of

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the glenn he has been a student and a

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pass master within several different

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esoteric organizations over the last 25

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00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:37,440
years he has studied and served as a

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00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:39,680
leader within various branches of

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freemasonry rosicrucianism

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00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:45,599
martinism and templarism as well as the

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orders of both eastern and western

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lineage

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he has written eight books and dozens of

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articles for different periodicals he is

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00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,680
known for speaking worldwide at both

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00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:57,599
public and private venues delivering

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00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:00,640
hundreds of lectures timothy serves as

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00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:03,839
an expert in cross-cultural symbolism

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00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,079
and he is regularly works as a

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00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:08,320
consultant in the entertainment industry

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00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,119
and helping in track to diplomacy

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00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:12,960
worldwide

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00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,280
all of his books are in the links below

751
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:17,280
and i would welcome

752
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:19,200
like to welcome for the first time to

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00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:20,400
pay to black

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00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:23,440
timmy hogan timothy sir how are you

755
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:25,440
great thanks for having me on

756
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:27,520
this is a big deal to me man this is a

757
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:28,560
big deal

758
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:30,960
well it's a nicknail to me too

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00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:33,440
well here's a you know i i know you were

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probably uh listening earlier and i

761
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:41,280
like uh so many uh you know kids right

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00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:44,560
kids nights right and and things we grow

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00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:45,359
up

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and uh following this we all we man we

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00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:51,200
all wanted to be hanging out in camelot

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you know

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and uh so there's that part of it but uh

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00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:56,560
meeting you

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00:38:02,390 --> 00:37:59,680
um is is it it was meant to happen and

770
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:02,400
so thank you but before we get started

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you get the first time guest disclaimer

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00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:07,200
all right which is this

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00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:09,200
timothy it's just you and i sitting on

774
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:11,200
my couch having a conversation as

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00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:12,880
friends and where that conversation

776
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,440
starts it starts where it ends it ends

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00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:17,520
but we're gonna end his friends there he

778
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:19,760
is great to me well we're already

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00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:21,920
friends but you know

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00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:24,240
the first time guest disclaimer is a big

781
00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:26,480
deal so there you go

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00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:26,870
um

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00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:29,040
[Music]

784
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:32,079
i kind of want to start here

785
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:34,240
um when

786
00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:38,320
when i say something as lofty as

787
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:41,119
the worldwide grand master of the

788
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,760
knights templar right it's pretty heavy

789
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:45,119
it's pretty heavy

790
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:50,630
what does that mean

791
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:52,079
well there are

792
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:53,760
there are a number of different templar

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00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:56,560
lineages around the world and uh they

794
00:39:02,470 --> 00:38:59,440
they come together in a kind of like a

795
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,480
united nations if you will of

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00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:04,800
of templar bodies known as the order of

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00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:07,119
the temple of secret initiates

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00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,680
and i'm ahead of that so

799
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:11,280
um and

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00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:13,599
basically what that means is

801
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:16,079
it's my job just to make sure that the

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00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:19,520
the mission of the templar work is stays

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00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:20,880
on track

804
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:23,599
and uh that we're

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00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,800
we're staying true to our principles

806
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:28,400
uh and and then we also have to make

807
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:29,760
sure that there's certain things that

808
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:30,640
we're

809
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:32,960
trying to protect are staying protected

810
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:35,200
and and that they are revealed to the

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00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:36,480
world

812
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:39,200
uh in appropriate manner

813
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,720
um okay i i can i do a disclaimer really

814
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:45,280
quick i'm gonna do a disclaimer

815
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:46,560
um

816
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:49,119
uh timothy's got a pin point to the pin

817
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:50,560
on your lapel

818
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:52,079
okay

819
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:53,680
yeah yeah so

820
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,040
so i go up to timothy and i go dude

821
00:40:02,710 --> 00:39:59,599
i want that pin

822
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:02,720
and he gave it to me so but but it's

823
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,680
it's it's in symbol only i'm not a

824
00:40:10,310 --> 00:40:07,920
knights templar yet but

825
00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:10,320
but uh but i got the pin right and it

826
00:40:14,310 --> 00:40:12,320
was so special to me

827
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:14,320
um and

828
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,079
when you see somebody wearing that pin

829
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:20,160
what does it tell you

830
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:21,680
do you guys wink at each other from

831
00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:24,480
across the room you know like yeah i

832
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,480
mean kind of we have other ways of

833
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:28,560
recognizing each other even without the

834
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:30,880
pins but um yeah i mean it's definitely

835
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:34,079
a way of of recognizing hey

836
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:36,079
you know your brother you're a sister

837
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:39,040
within the order and uh

838
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:40,560
you know you're doing the work

839
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:43,359
yeah yeah right on right on okay

840
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:46,400
so the next probably uh most important

841
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:49,119
question is uh grandmaster right of the

842
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,079
world

843
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:52,400
that means

844
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:54,800
you get you get the secrets

845
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,000
right are you are you exposed to those

846
00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:00,480
things that we have been hearing about

847
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:03,200
in in our circles over these years are

848
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,720
you the guy

849
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:06,880
yeah i mean i'm i have to stay on top of

850
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:09,040
all that i mean there there are there

851
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:11,040
are lots of secrets you know from

852
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,800
anything from

853
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:14,800
uh

854
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:17,280
you know actual artifacts that have been

855
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:20,800
secured over the centuries to

856
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:24,960
you know certain philosophical ideas um

857
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:26,319
uh

858
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:29,520
understanding of certain sacred texts

859
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:30,880
and uh

860
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:33,440
what some of that means as well as how

861
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:36,079
to apply certain technologies that that

862
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,359
we've

863
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,440
uh

864
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:41,760
we've we've come to understand related

865
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:44,880
to the to the things we've

866
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:47,440
uh acquired over the you know over the

867
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:49,839
last thousand years

868
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:53,520
do you guys have uh and gals

869
00:42:01,510 --> 00:41:56,319
do you guys have a central

870
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:01,520
depository repository a central place or

871
00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:02,960
are these things we're going to talk

872
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:05,359
about this as as the night unfolds here

873
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:06,560
of course but

874
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,599
um or is it spread out around the world

875
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:11,040
it's somewhat spread out around the

876
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,319
world i mean there are multiple vaults

877
00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:16,480
that contain

878
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:18,319
uh

879
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,240
some of the artifacts

880
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:22,800
and uh they are in

881
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:25,040
some of them are here in the americas

882
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:26,800
and and some of them are actually

883
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:29,760
overseas still

884
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:32,480
uh but they're all in places that are

885
00:42:36,309 --> 00:42:33,680
safe

886
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:36,319
uh so that they can't be

887
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:41,359
um stolen and misused and uh

888
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,520
you know so so that any one religion or

889
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:48,000
governmental structure can't take them

890
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:50,240
and try to

891
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:51,520
you know

892
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:54,240
prop themselves up as the only power or

893
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:55,760
authority

894
00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:59,280
uh over other people with them sure sure

895
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:04,950
let's let's back up for a second okay

896
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:07,680
and let's talk about the origins of the

897
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:10,839
templars um and how that actually

898
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:12,720
started um

899
00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:14,319
we're not going to do an extensive

900
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,160
history lesson here

901
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:18,720
um but one of the things that is

902
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:20,560
difficult to do

903
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,720
um is is find research and and and

904
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:26,480
and true knowledge

905
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,520
of not only the knights templar uh many

906
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:31,359
books have been written and i have most

907
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,480
of them and have read them um but it's

908
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,000
the other things around the knights

909
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:38,480
templar too as well you can't find

910
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,480
actual knowledge on alchemy you're not

911
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,480
going to find that online you you need

912
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,440
to go to the source uh for

913
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:47,040
for that information

914
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,640
um also different objects a different

915
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:52,560
text different relics you're not going

916
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,160
to find that stuff online um and so i

917
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,640
want to talk about that stuff

918
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:00,560
um that is difficult to do and you're

919
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:03,440
the source to go to that and the other

920
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:06,079
thing that is uh

921
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:08,960
has been clouded in history is the

922
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,160
actual origins of the knights templar so

923
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:14,640
let's start there what were the origins

924
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:17,920
well the origins are really uh so

925
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:19,440
going back

926
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:21,040
as far as 10

927
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:25,200
well it's actually as far back as 10 57

928
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,400
there was

929
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:28,240
a group of

930
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:31,040
you know philosophers in greece that

931
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:34,319
came together that were trying to

932
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:36,400
they they knew that they were preserving

933
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:38,800
certain information and they

934
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:41,359
they moved themselves to constantinople

935
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:42,640
at the time

936
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:44,960
and uh by

937
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,560
1096 there was

938
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,560
there was um

939
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,319
some of the early members of the order

940
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:54,560
including huda payne's and godfrey to

941
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:55,839
saint omar

942
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:58,160
uh huge of pains became the first grand

943
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:00,960
master of the templar order he they had

944
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:04,079
both traveled to constantinople

945
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:05,440
and had been

946
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:11,430
this tradition

947
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:14,560
and they were given a mission

948
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:17,599
specifically to go find these artifacts

949
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:18,960
now they had

950
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,119
uh hudipains and godfrey to say nomar

951
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:24,240
they had they themselves had come from

952
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:26,240
certain families that had been

953
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:28,480
preserving a history

954
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:31,440
and ultimately the goal of all this was

955
00:45:39,309 --> 00:45:35,839
it was believed and it was understood

956
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:39,319
that there had been a advanced

957
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,160
civilization in antiquity

958
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:44,480
and that something had happened and it

959
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:47,280
had wiped out become wiped out and that

960
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:49,520
there were pockets of it that had

961
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:51,359
survived

962
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,400
in different regions

963
00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:56,880
and so the order was found specifically

964
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,560
to go out and find these these pockets

965
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:02,640
or the remnants of these pockets of

966
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:08,069
talk with them about what they were

967
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:10,160
sitting on

968
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:15,829
really to try to bring all this

969
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:17,760
knowledge together and bring it back to

970
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:20,480
europe to uh what and this is what

971
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:23,040
ultimately led to the renaissance

972
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:25,280
um you know because the europe had been

973
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:27,760
in the dark ages at this point

974
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:29,040
so they

975
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:31,119
they um

976
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:33,680
ended up going into jerusalem which was

977
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:35,599
one of the places that they

978
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:36,640
were

979
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:41,760
they started digging

980
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:44,480
they were officially founded

981
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:50,630
the roman catholic

982
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:51,839
tradition

983
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:55,520
they were officially established in 1118

984
00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:58,079
but really this was just when the roman

985
00:47:00,950 --> 00:47:00,079
church started getting involved with

986
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:00,960
them

987
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:02,800
uh they had already been doing stuff

988
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:05,040
prior to 11 18.

989
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:06,400
um

990
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:07,839
but they

991
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:11,599
they started getting some

992
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:12,880
patronage

993
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:15,760
from certain members of the roman church

994
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:16,960
and

995
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:22,160
digging they found all kinds of

996
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:23,680
artifacts

997
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:26,240
some of which related to this previous

998
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:27,920
civilization

999
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,200
and some of which related to

1000
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:33,599
biblical history

1001
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:35,680
including

1002
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:40,079
people who were involved in both

1003
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:42,800
you know old testament or torah and new

1004
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:44,240
testament

1005
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:46,319
stories

1006
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:52,950
you know alternative

1007
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:55,599
uh understanding to the bible than what

1008
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:57,520
had been being taught in europe at the

1009
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,800
time

1010
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:00,720
uh and they tried to bring some of this

1011
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:04,480
stuff back to europe recognizing that

1012
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,599
some of it would be accepted

1013
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:09,760
some of it

1014
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:12,720
really people weren't ready for yet

1015
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:14,960
and uh some of it

1016
00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:18,160
they specifically made sure not to turn

1017
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:20,319
over to the roman church because they

1018
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,559
knew it would just disappear if they did

1019
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,760
that

1020
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:26,000
uh so they ended up turning it over to

1021
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:28,480
other communities who they knew would be

1022
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:31,119
able to be responsible

1023
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:34,000
well there was at the time uh there was

1024
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:35,440
a race

1025
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:38,480
uh to get to these relics that had been

1026
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,359
rumored uh uh for

1027
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:43,680
at that point over a thousand years

1028
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:45,839
right and so

1029
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:48,319
um the spear of destiny right the true

1030
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,319
cross the holy grail the ark of the

1031
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:52,319
covenant um

1032
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:55,839
everybody wanted uh these items and it

1033
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:58,720
wasn't just the roman catholic church

1034
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:01,680
uh that was going after this uh there

1035
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,880
were

1036
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:05,280
many groups in pursuit of these right

1037
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:06,880
that's correct yeah they were they were

1038
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,480
jewish in muslim uh traditions as well

1039
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:12,800
that were trying to

1040
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:14,960
secure these things and then there were

1041
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:17,920
other groups that were

1042
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:21,200
more unitarian gnostic in nature like

1043
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:23,920
the druze and the sabians

1044
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:26,880
that were preserving their own aspect of

1045
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,640
of things and

1046
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:30,640
and so the templars just tried to

1047
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,800
navigate all of this

1048
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,119
and uh

1049
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:36,960
take what they could

1050
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:40,640
and bring it back into europe they they

1051
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:44,400
also got involved in

1052
00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:46,160
building construction

1053
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:49,839
and farming along with banking

1054
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,680
and began to build

1055
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:53,599
they're really responsible for building

1056
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,040
the first cathedrals in europe

1057
00:50:03,190 --> 00:49:59,359
and tried to incorporate some of this

1058
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,200
knowledge onto the cathedrals

1059
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:05,280
most people think of the cathedrals as

1060
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:06,079
just

1061
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:08,480
giant churches with depictions of the

1062
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,280
bible on them and they do have that but

1063
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:13,359
there was all kinds of other

1064
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:15,440
arts and sciences that were also

1065
00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:16,880
included

1066
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,119
on those cathedrals that they would that

1067
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:21,040
they were bringing back from the

1068
00:50:25,030 --> 00:50:22,880
knowledge that they were gaining

1069
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:25,040
in their travels you know not only into

1070
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:27,680
jerusalem but also egypt

1071
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:30,880
uh and other places uh some who haven't

1072
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:33,359
even argued that they were traveling as

1073
00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:36,000
far as india

1074
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:37,119
and

1075
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:46,000
they begin doing cert secret trips to

1076
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:48,880
the new world of the americas

1077
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:53,200
and and and we'll get to that um i

1078
00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:55,040
i want to talk about

1079
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:59,119
um some of the things that they were

1080
00:51:01,430 --> 00:51:00,400
finding

1081
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,440
and

1082
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:03,599
if they actually understood

1083
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:04,400
what

1084
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:08,880
they were in possession of because

1085
00:51:14,069 --> 00:51:10,960
when we go back to the library of

1086
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:14,079
alexandria and the foundations of

1087
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:16,880
philosophy and alchemy that were

1088
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:18,400
established from

1089
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,440
you know

1090
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:21,440
the the the brains that were collected

1091
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,880
from around the world that gathered

1092
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:24,960
there and shared their knowledge

1093
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:28,960
this made its way um into uh jerusalem

1094
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:31,280
and and the middle east and certainly uh

1095
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:34,640
into greece and in later rome

1096
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:39,359
um but this information uh about alchemy

1097
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:40,720
is something that

1098
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:43,599
you wouldn't necessarily understand its

1099
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:46,160
importance did they

1100
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:47,040
know

1101
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:50,319
what it was and how important it was as

1102
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:52,480
they collected it

1103
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:55,119
yeah well they they understood you know

1104
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,040
first and foremost they were approaching

1105
00:52:00,870 --> 00:52:00,000
the subject from a

1106
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:00,880
uh

1107
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,720
you know a biblical

1108
00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:04,720
perspective i mean they started looking

1109
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:06,319
at the biblical

1110
00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:09,839
text you know and and talking about

1111
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:11,520
you know the bible talks about all these

1112
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:14,559
weird things like uh moses

1113
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,520
burning a golden calf into a powder that

1114
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:20,319
the that the hebrews would eat well this

1115
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:21,680
was

1116
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,480
you know any modern scientists would say

1117
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:28,480
oh this is just proof that the bible's

1118
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:30,240
full of hui because everyone knows that

1119
00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:32,160
the gold melts it doesn't turn into a

1120
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:34,480
powder but but actually there is an

1121
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,720
alchemical process where you can turn

1122
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,880
gold into a powder

1123
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:40,800
and they were

1124
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:43,440
these were things that they were seeing

1125
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,599
on the temple walls of of ancient egypt

1126
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:49,280
uh

1127
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:52,880
and then they were meeting groups like

1128
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,040
again like the tahid muhadun drews

1129
00:53:02,870 --> 00:52:59,200
that were practicing alchemy and and

1130
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,880
also uh the sufi and and uh other other

1131
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:05,359
there were certain gnostic sects

1132
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:08,720
uh you know including the the manikins

1133
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:11,680
and the bogan mills and the mandians and

1134
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:12,880
the uh

1135
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:15,760
albigensian who are passing on their own

1136
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:18,240
alchemical understanding

1137
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:19,200
and

1138
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:23,040
so when they went down to

1139
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:24,480
uh

1140
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:28,400
places like in the middle east like

1141
00:53:34,069 --> 00:53:31,680
jerusalem and then into egypt

1142
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:34,079
and they started finding certain

1143
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:37,359
artifacts that seemed to have an

1144
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:40,160
alchemical component to them

1145
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:41,839
they of course they brought them back to

1146
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:43,200
these other groups that they were

1147
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:45,760
associating with and they started

1148
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:47,920
figuring out how to do it

1149
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:50,240
is that a statue of is that is that

1150
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:52,960
akhenaten yeah come out and behind me

1151
00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:56,960
here he's he's got my back yeah right on

1152
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:58,240
very cool

1153
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:00,079
um okay so

1154
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:02,880
um what's uh

1155
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:04,240
the focus

1156
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:06,800
of the roman catholic church at that

1157
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:09,280
time there's the religious stuff you

1158
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:12,240
know the direct religious uh things

1159
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:15,440
but these other traditions that may have

1160
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:17,359
been heretical right

1161
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:19,599
were they interested in in in getting

1162
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,520
that and suppressing that knowledge and

1163
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:23,200
keeping it away

1164
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:25,920
well at first they were okay with the

1165
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:29,359
idea of the templars bringing a certain

1166
00:54:34,069 --> 00:54:30,720
money

1167
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:34,079
wealth back to europe uh building these

1168
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:35,920
these cathedrals

1169
00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:37,680
you know the roman church thought oh

1170
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:39,839
this is this is in our interest you know

1171
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:40,720
i mean

1172
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:42,960
they're building all these these things

1173
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:45,040
and they're bringing wealth back in and

1174
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:47,839
and as long as we get ours then

1175
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:49,760
we'll just let them be

1176
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:52,640
uh but after a while uh they started

1177
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:54,960
recognizing that

1178
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:57,040
uh the templars weren't weren't giving

1179
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:59,359
everything up to the church in fact they

1180
00:55:02,870 --> 00:55:00,079
were

1181
00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:02,880
setting up entire systems

1182
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,800
independent of the church and

1183
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:07,040
independent of the monarchy

1184
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,240
so they were

1185
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:10,319
they were setting up new systems of

1186
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:11,599
power

1187
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:12,880
um

1188
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:15,440
independent of the two dominant systems

1189
00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:16,880
at the time

1190
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:18,160
and

1191
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:20,880
not only that but then they were taking

1192
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:23,119
uh

1193
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:26,640
knowledge

1194
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:27,839
uh

1195
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,760
gnostic

1196
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:33,040
uh

1197
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:39,280
that just weren't even in the standard

1198
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,119
canon of the bible

1199
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:43,440
uh and and it's including their

1200
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:46,640
associations with uh muslims

1201
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:50,079
and and it started to

1202
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:51,280
you know

1203
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:54,880
they started to develop a a system that

1204
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:58,240
uh was not completely

1205
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:00,880
uh in line with the roman catholic uh

1206
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:03,200
dogma of the time shall we say and

1207
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,839
eventually you know it resulted in the

1208
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:07,440
roman church

1209
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:10,000
actually going and suppressing him

1210
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:11,599
by 1307.

1211
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:15,920
okay so now let's talk about the end of

1212
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:16,880
you know

1213
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:21,680
friday the 13th yeah um i i have

1214
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:27,200
one basic uh question that may seem uh

1215
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:28,480
kind of dumb

1216
00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:32,240
uneducated but it seemed like

1217
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,710
uh

1218
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:34,880
[Music]

1219
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:37,680
not there wasn't that many deaths

1220
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,559
right now we see the tombs and and we

1221
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:41,680
see that

1222
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:44,799
but i only see the representation of

1223
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:47,359
you know a few dozen you know

1224
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:49,680
and i don't see

1225
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:53,440
uh where history wants to say that uh

1226
00:56:57,910 --> 00:56:54,880
the templar

1227
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:57,920
grew so powerful in europe and and the

1228
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,440
land that they possessed and the money

1229
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:01,440
that they possessed and then that had to

1230
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:03,520
have been supported by

1231
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:06,319
a lot of templars and we don't history

1232
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:08,559
doesn't show us that

1233
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:12,480
it seems that friday the 13th was there

1234
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:14,559
and there was an attempt to close it

1235
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:15,520
down

1236
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:17,280
but the knights templar

1237
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:19,920
disappeared what part of history is

1238
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:21,040
correct here

1239
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:24,400
yeah so basically what happened is uh

1240
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:27,440
the the arrest orders for the templars

1241
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:30,880
actually took uh was issued um in early

1242
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:33,599
september of 1307.

1243
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:36,240
so these arrest orders were sent out to

1244
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:38,559
the different provinces that basically

1245
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:42,319
said hey on october 13th we're going to

1246
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:45,520
round up the templars

1247
00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:47,359
so what the tumblers did is of course

1248
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:49,119
they found out about this i mean it was

1249
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:51,200
supposed to be secretive but they found

1250
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:53,040
out about it so

1251
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:56,160
what they did is they they left um

1252
00:58:02,230 --> 00:57:58,799
you know about a hundred templars behind

1253
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:02,240
in france to pretend like

1254
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,760
you know everything was going as

1255
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:05,440
business as usual

1256
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:08,079
and then they got all the other templars

1257
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:09,280
out of there

1258
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:11,280
with the treasures

1259
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:14,400
and their ships and everything else

1260
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:16,079
so that

1261
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:19,520
and the hope was in in including jacques

1262
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:21,680
d malay who was the grand master of the

1263
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,440
templars at the time

1264
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:25,599
he stayed behind

1265
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:27,760
hoping that

1266
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:29,200
uh

1267
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:31,040
when the arrest orders

1268
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:33,920
came that yes there would be

1269
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:35,680
you know

1270
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:38,319
about a hundred of them arrested in

1271
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:39,599
paris

1272
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,480
but it was his hope that he could

1273
00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:44,640
negotiate out of it

1274
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:47,599
and that that reason would prevail

1275
00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:51,119
and that ultimately they would be let go

1276
00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:54,000
but of course that didn't happen um

1277
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:57,119
the the roman church wanted the templars

1278
00:59:04,710 --> 00:58:58,480
to

1279
00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:04,720
which was another competing

1280
00:59:08,309 --> 00:59:06,799
uh order

1281
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,319
and

1282
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:10,319
which later became known as the knights

1283
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,520
of malta

1284
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:13,520
and the templars wouldn't do it

1285
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:16,799
jackie malay refused to do it

1286
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:19,440
philip the fair the the king the french

1287
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:22,559
king wanted the templars to turn over

1288
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:23,599
all their

1289
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:25,920
their wealth to him so that he could use

1290
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:28,559
them to fund a war a new war that he

1291
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:30,000
wanted

1292
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:33,280
and uh they wouldn't do it

1293
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:34,640
and so

1294
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:36,720
as a result of all this you know with

1295
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,640
the with the with the

1296
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:40,799
treasures missing at that point

1297
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:42,960
with all the holy artifacts having

1298
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,240
disappeared as well as all the ships uh

1299
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:50,000
you know the

1300
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:53,200
the roman church and the french king

1301
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:56,079
were left in a real bind

1302
00:59:59,910 --> 00:59:57,760
because

1303
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:59,920
everything that they were going after it

1304
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:01,520
was very clear they weren't going to get

1305
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:05,520
so they tried to extract it via torture

1306
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:07,760
for seven years

1307
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:09,359
and

1308
01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:11,760
you know a number of templars died via

1309
01:00:17,349 --> 01:00:16,160
torture and then ultimately by 1314

1310
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:17,359
uh

1311
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:19,839
they ended up burning jacques de malay

1312
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:21,760
at the stake

1313
01:00:25,990 --> 01:00:23,760
as well as with other templars like

1314
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,000
jeffrey desharnae who was the grand

1315
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:29,200
preceptor from normandy and uh

1316
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:30,720
they

1317
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:33,440
you know and and

1318
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:36,160
but jackie malay issued a a curse right

1319
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:37,760
before he died

1320
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:41,119
uh saying that uh philip the fair and

1321
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:45,440
pope clement v would uh would join him

1322
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:46,960
within a year

1323
01:00:51,670 --> 01:00:48,960
and sure enough they both died within a

1324
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:51,680
year after jackie malay was burnt to the

1325
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:53,359
stake so

1326
01:00:55,109 --> 01:00:54,160
so

1327
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:55,119
um

1328
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:56,720
we need to take a break right here and

1329
01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:58,799
when we come back i i think it's

1330
01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:00,720
important that i left everything out you

1331
01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:02,400
know we got the beginning

1332
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:04,160
we got the end

1333
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:07,920
okay now what happened next and

1334
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:10,799
and where did everything go and where

1335
01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:12,880
are we today we've got a lot to talk

1336
01:01:16,549 --> 01:01:14,480
about tonight everybody just stay right

1337
01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:16,559
there this is fade to black i'm arrows

1338
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,040
jimmy church tonight the world grand

1339
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:21,359
master of the knights templar timothy

1340
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,960
hogan is with us

1341
01:01:28,630 --> 01:01:24,480
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1342
01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:28,640
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welcome back fade to black i'm real

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simply church tonight timothy hogan is

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with us

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worldwide grand master of the night

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templar

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and now i've set the stage

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uh the beginning and and the end uh

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the technical end

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uh uh i guess i could say the um uh

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what's the the dogma end right

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of uh of what we've been told over the

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years of the knights templar

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now uh for everybody

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that is listening tonight there's a few

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things that

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need to be discussed because you know we

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just want to know we've all seen indiana

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jones right okay so

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let's kind of start there

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there's a few

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main things

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that are talked about that have been

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missing and i want to start with the ark

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the ark of the covenant

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um did the templars uh spirit i i just

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said spirit did they spirit that out of

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jerusalem

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yeah so

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uh there were actually multiple arcs

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that were

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according to our tradition i mean that

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there were multiple arcs that were taken

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out of that region

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and i say multiple arcs i mean most

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people think of one

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arc of the covenant uh

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our our records showed there were

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actually

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ten

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different uh

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different of these arcs and we secured

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six of them

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uh which we then uh

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smuggled

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basically from

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egypt and jerusalem up into

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[Music]

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portugal and then well up into lebanon

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and then from lebanon to portugal

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uh up into uh france and scotland

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and then eventually to the new world of

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the americas well you said ten there

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were ten yeah um and

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you

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six yeah

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but was one the arc of the covenant and

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the and there's nine others or were they

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all the same i think they're all all

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this well they're all pretty much the

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same they they are

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the thing you have to understand about

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these arcs is that they're basically uh

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big capacitors they they are

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made out of alternating layers of acacia

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wood and gold

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and they weigh you know a couple tons

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and uh they

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are built in such a way that

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they especially if they're put in

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somewhat of a static environment if you

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remember

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uh the arks were the ark even if you

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look at the the

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uh

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the torah or the old testament

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it talks about how

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uh originally prior to solomon's temple

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being built there was a tabernacle

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erected in the wilderness

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and it was erected with these

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wool

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basically

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sheets

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up static electricity and the the well

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they would they would collect static

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electricity and then the arc would would

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build it up and it would discharge

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through the through the the winged

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fingers figures on the tops of it

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and

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this is really the reason why

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even in

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the torah talks about how you couldn't

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touch the ark without

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dying because you'd be shocked to death

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i mean it would literally shock you to

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death even if you were a good person

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if you touched the ark

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it would kill you

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and so uh the the way around this was

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they they would take a

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a rod like in the bible they refer to

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like aaron's rod

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and they would take this rod and stick

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it on the ground and then let go of it

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01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:43,120
and it would

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01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:47,679
the electricity and then they could take

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01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:50,080
the lid off the ark it would discharge

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01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:53,040
discharge it yep okay so

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01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:57,199
six the number shall be six yeah okay

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um

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01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:00,400
is the knights templars still in

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01:11:05,750 --> 01:11:03,360
possession of the six arks today yes we

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01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:05,760
know well we know where they are they're

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01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:08,400
in a series of vaults

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01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:10,800
and uh we're responsible for guarding

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01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:13,840
them and we work with other

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01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:17,120
groups who are also responsible for

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01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:18,640
guarding them

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01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:20,800
until the world's ready for them

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basically

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uh do have you seen them

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01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:27,120
i have

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01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:30,960
some of them

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01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:31,280
and

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[Music]

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what can you tell me uh

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01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:38,000
what did you see you're still alive

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01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:39,120
but um

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uh what did you see how can you describe

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01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:44,640
them uh to me well yeah i mean the

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01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:47,040
they're they're gold boxes i mean the

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01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:49,679
actually the depiction of it in uh

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01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:52,719
raiders of the lost ark isn't too bad uh

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01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:55,280
to be honest uh but

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01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:57,520
uh these these boxes are actually

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01:12:01,910 --> 01:11:59,440
depicted on the

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01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:01,920
ancient egyptian temple walls

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01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:04,640
you can find them all over the place at

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uh

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01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:09,520
places like dendera and filet

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01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:15,510
other places where the templars had set

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01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:16,800
up

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01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:18,080
um

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01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:22,239
commanders and preceptories in in egypt

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01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:23,360
wow

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01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:26,640
i've seen some of these images

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01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:31,120
clearly that

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01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:33,440
that's what is represented there

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01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:34,840
um and

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01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:38,480
also in in some of these images it

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01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:41,199
appears that there are cables

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01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:44,800
connecting uh to i've i've

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01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:47,280
seen one image with four right and

1595
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:50,400
there's four cables going to

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01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:52,560
one single cable four cables going to

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01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:54,640
each of the four boxes

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01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:56,719
um and i think that that is what that

1599
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:58,640
represents it seems to look like

1600
01:13:01,990 --> 01:13:01,280
electricity to me it doesn't

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01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:02,000
yeah

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01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:04,960
you know maybe it's my modern mind uh

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01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:06,719
looking at it that way

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01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:08,880
but it doesn't look like something that

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01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:09,679
would

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01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,840
just be naturally represented somewhere

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01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:13,440
in egypt it looks like there's four

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01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:16,400
boxes uh with four cables well there's

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01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:19,280
no it's no coincidence that the

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01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:22,000
that the one of the words for uh an

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01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:25,520
electrical spark is known as an ark

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01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:26,719
i mean

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01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:30,000
because it's directly tied to these arcs

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01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:32,800
well played there timothy well

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01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:34,400
i didn't make that connection but you're

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01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:36,800
right you want to argue something out

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01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:37,760
right

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okay

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01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:42,080
now why 10.

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01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:44,159
were they used in different locations to

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01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:45,600
power things up

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01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:47,679
i think that that's my understanding

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01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:49,840
they were the the

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01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:52,080
what we understand or what we believe we

1625
01:13:56,310 --> 01:13:53,920
understand now is that this was a

1626
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:56,320
technology that had

1627
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:00,080
been developed uh probably in atlantis

1628
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:04,080
maybe it was given to the atlanteans by

1629
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:05,760
other

1630
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:08,239
entities from off this earth

1631
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:09,600
i don't know

1632
01:14:15,030 --> 01:14:11,760
okay let me stop you right there

1633
01:14:16,310 --> 01:14:15,040
the bible says god yeah

1634
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:16,320
no i mean

1635
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:18,320
you know the thing is you can build one

1636
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:19,360
of these

1637
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:21,760
and uh they're not that complicated to

1638
01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:24,000
build but but

1639
01:14:29,430 --> 01:14:27,120
um the real secret to them is there was

1640
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:29,440
a there's this substance that was put

1641
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:32,480
inside of them that was called mana

1642
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:36,159
and this mana is a superconductive

1643
01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:37,840
substance

1644
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:40,800
so when you put this mana inside the

1645
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:42,960
this arc which is this

1646
01:14:47,590 --> 01:14:44,400
capacitor

1647
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:47,600
uh it all it does is it builds up

1648
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:51,520
immense electricity which is discharged

1649
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:52,640
and

1650
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:55,199
if you had several of these placed at

1651
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:57,360
key locations

1652
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:59,520
they would basically just broadcast

1653
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:01,040
electricity

1654
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:03,440
uh through the earth through

1655
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:05,760
you know electromagnetic lines of force

1656
01:15:09,910 --> 01:15:07,520
on the earth

1657
01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:09,920
much like what nikola tesla was trying

1658
01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:11,040
to

1659
01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:15,280
now um

1660
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,159
i thought mana was stuff you ate

1661
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:20,480
yeah you could eat it too yeah it's uh

1662
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:22,960
it's both it's it's uh

1663
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:24,719
you know it's a strange

1664
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:27,280
it's a strange substance

1665
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:30,080
it can be extracted out of uh

1666
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:31,760
vegetable matter

1667
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:34,480
as well as sea salt

1668
01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:37,840
um as well as metals

1669
01:15:43,189 --> 01:15:40,080
but it's uh

1670
01:15:44,390 --> 01:15:43,199
it it can be eaten and it and it seems

1671
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:44,400
to have

1672
01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:47,120
health benefits in terms of being able

1673
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:49,760
to cure certain diseases certain forms

1674
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:52,159
of cancer

1675
01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:54,800
but even beyond that it also has this

1676
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:57,520
super conductive quality to it and when

1677
01:16:02,790 --> 01:15:59,280
it's put in these boxes it just

1678
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:02,800
generates a tremendous electricity

1679
01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:05,280
so it had a two-fold

1680
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:08,960
process and and the well two-fold uh

1681
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:11,440
purpose but the the process for making

1682
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:14,800
it was an alchemical process

1683
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:17,199
and you have to remember

1684
01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:18,000
the

1685
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:27,840
so so ultimately

1686
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:31,040
it was all going back to this mana and

1687
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:35,040
uh this mana was was really the

1688
01:16:41,830 --> 01:16:38,640
uh one of the secrets to

1689
01:16:44,470 --> 01:16:41,840
uh this technology and

1690
01:16:45,270 --> 01:16:44,480
and i dare say and and this is

1691
01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:45,280
gonna

1692
01:16:51,990 --> 01:16:48,880
get out there a little bit but uh you

1693
01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:52,000
know we find this same term mana

1694
01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:54,159
being used

1695
01:17:00,830 --> 01:16:56,960
all over the ancient world

1696
01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:00,840
usually in association with flying

1697
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:05,360
craft vermonter like vimana right in the

1698
01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:09,199
indian text in ancient sumer it's the

1699
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:11,199
the flying craft were referred to as

1700
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:12,640
shimana

1701
01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:14,880
right in uh

1702
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:16,880
in uh

1703
01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:19,840
uh ethiopian texts like the cabraganask

1704
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,239
uh king solomon was said to have this

1705
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:24,159
flying carriage

1706
01:17:30,630 --> 01:17:27,760
and he was manufacturing mana for it

1707
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:30,640
uh but we also find it in things like uh

1708
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:33,040
in polynesian cultures it's referred to

1709
01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:35,280
as manna

1710
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:37,840
in tibetan traditions it's referred to

1711
01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:40,239
as mani

1712
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:42,560
in some of the albigensian cathar

1713
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:45,120
traditions it's referred to as mani as

1714
01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:46,560
well in fact

1715
01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:48,880
if you ever if you ever see the there's

1716
01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:50,800
a tibetan

1717
01:17:57,510 --> 01:17:55,040
prayer that goes oh money pod me whom

1718
01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:57,520
it's uh it's a real common you'll see

1719
01:18:02,229 --> 01:17:59,760
that if you go into any

1720
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:02,239
import store that sells tibetan stuff

1721
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:03,600
you'll see it

1722
01:18:07,270 --> 01:18:05,440
they always have a plaque or a flag or

1723
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:07,280
something with old money padme home on

1724
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:09,760
it but but om

1725
01:18:16,709 --> 01:18:13,600
was said to be the word of creation mani

1726
01:18:19,510 --> 01:18:16,719
was said to be this the precious jewel

1727
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:19,520
or the precious stone

1728
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:22,880
padme was the lotus and whom was the

1729
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:24,719
completion so

1730
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:26,880
it was basically saying you know through

1731
01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:28,960
through the use of the word

1732
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:30,159
on

1733
01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:32,159
this precious

1734
01:18:36,149 --> 01:18:33,199
white

1735
01:18:39,110 --> 01:18:36,159
material this precious jewel

1736
01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:39,120
it can open your

1737
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:41,920
chakras or your psychic centers

1738
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:45,199
and bring you to a full completion this

1739
01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:47,440
is basically what it's saying

1740
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:49,920
but it goes right back to the same

1741
01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:51,360
the same

1742
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:53,600
substance exact same substance being

1743
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:54,480
used

1744
01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:56,400
all over the world described all over

1745
01:19:01,270 --> 01:18:59,600
the world now are all of these uh 10

1746
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:01,280
arcs

1747
01:19:07,110 --> 01:19:04,159
the knights templar have six

1748
01:19:08,950 --> 01:19:07,120
same dimensions are they identical

1749
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:08,960
yeah they're all the same dimensions

1750
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:13,120
they're they're relatively identical um

1751
01:19:15,110 --> 01:19:14,320
and

1752
01:19:20,830 --> 01:19:15,120
it

1753
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:20,840
worth pointing out that

1754
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:23,199
uh the

1755
01:19:31,270 --> 01:19:26,320
outer dimensions of these arcs are the

1756
01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:31,280
same as the inner dimensions of the

1757
01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:34,000
king's chamber the sarcophagus and the

1758
01:19:40,149 --> 01:19:37,040
king's chamber of the great pyramid yeah

1759
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:40,159
some call it sarcophagus i call it a box

1760
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:43,520
yeah i'm not it's a little small to be a

1761
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:46,080
sarcophagus but so the ark of the

1762
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:49,679
covenant uh the ark would fit inside of

1763
01:19:52,870 --> 01:19:50,480
that

1764
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:52,880
to do its to do its thing you had to

1765
01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:54,960
broadcast the electricity around the

1766
01:20:00,070 --> 01:19:57,600
area yeah right right and some have

1767
01:20:01,990 --> 01:20:00,080
speculated even that this was may have

1768
01:20:04,229 --> 01:20:02,000
been why

1769
01:20:06,390 --> 01:20:04,239
uh

1770
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:06,400
pharaoh is really chasing moses because

1771
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:08,960
he stole one of the he stole one of the

1772
01:20:13,590 --> 01:20:12,800
arks out of egypt yeah and he needed it

1773
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:13,600
yeah

1774
01:20:18,950 --> 01:20:17,280
um uh okay

1775
01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:18,960
so there are if

1776
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:20,719
i want to move on to some other things

1777
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:24,239
but um when can we see one i want to see

1778
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:25,199
one

1779
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:31,990
yeah well you know the plan is we're

1780
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:33,840
we're really we're really wanting to

1781
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:36,000
reveal this stuff now i mean it's part

1782
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:38,080
of why i agreed to be on your shows

1783
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:39,679
because we're we're starting to get

1784
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:42,400
people ready for this because

1785
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:43,840
uh the world

1786
01:20:46,630 --> 01:20:44,719
i mean

1787
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:46,640
one of the things that we absolutely

1788
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,199
believe is templars is that

1789
01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:51,360
all people

1790
01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:54,080
have a spark of the divine in them

1791
01:20:58,470 --> 01:20:56,800
uh we call it the sacred flame and it's

1792
01:21:00,470 --> 01:20:58,480
within everybody

1793
01:21:01,270 --> 01:21:00,480
and uh so

1794
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:01,280
no

1795
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:03,199
one group

1796
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:04,000
uh

1797
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:06,480
is the chosen ones we're we're all the

1798
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:09,760
chosen ones we just have to like

1799
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:12,800
lift ourselves up and uh

1800
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:15,199
and so these these treasures are really

1801
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:17,120
for the whole world

1802
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:18,159
um

1803
01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:21,600
we just have to make sure that uh if we

1804
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:23,440
do start to reveal them they're not

1805
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:25,760
gonna be misused

1806
01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:32,070
and that people understand what they are

1807
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:33,840
and that they're not meant to be some

1808
01:21:39,189 --> 01:21:35,600
sort of

1809
01:21:41,830 --> 01:21:39,199
you know secular badge for some

1810
01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:41,840
some group to wear but rather

1811
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:43,360
as as

1812
01:21:47,189 --> 01:21:45,440
something to celebrate as our collective

1813
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:47,199
humanity

1814
01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:50,080
would you consider them to be symbolic

1815
01:21:53,750 --> 01:21:51,440
today

1816
01:21:55,750 --> 01:21:53,760
or could they still be used for

1817
01:21:58,390 --> 01:21:55,760
something oh they could still be used

1818
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:58,400
for sure absolutely they could generate

1819
01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:00,239
uh they absolutely could generate

1820
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:01,920
electricity around the planet i mean

1821
01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:04,880
just throw some of this mana in there

1822
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:07,280
and uh you know put them in the right

1823
01:22:12,870 --> 01:22:09,440
places and they'll start to build up

1824
01:22:16,870 --> 01:22:12,880
electricity and they'll broadcast it

1825
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:16,880
you know a a big reveal like this would

1826
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:19,199
would would change history

1827
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:20,880
could the world handle

1828
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:22,840
this kind of uh

1829
01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:26,000
exposure i you know it's it's it's a

1830
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:28,239
funny thing you know nikola tesla tried

1831
01:22:34,149 --> 01:22:30,880
to do a similar thing

1832
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:34,159
a hundred years ago and uh

1833
01:22:37,030 --> 01:22:35,360
people weren't

1834
01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:37,040
it's it's

1835
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:38,960
debated whether people were ready for it

1836
01:22:43,510 --> 01:22:41,520
or not there's certainly the power

1837
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:43,520
structures of the day didn't want him to

1838
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,360
reveal it

1839
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:47,600
because you start broadcasting free

1840
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:50,880
electricity to the world i mean

1841
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:53,040
how do you make money off of that

1842
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,239
well

1843
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:56,880
see there's the technical side of this

1844
01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:59,440
the technology side of this but there is

1845
01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:00,719
also

1846
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:03,600
uh like i said there's a huge amount of

1847
01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:06,770
symbolism here yeah and and

1848
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:08,560
[Music]

1849
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:10,159
man

1850
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:12,560
i mean i mean and you could say even

1851
01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:15,840
from a symbolic standpoint uh you know

1852
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:19,040
even if even if there was no actual

1853
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:21,280
physical arc even though there are six

1854
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:26,870
the temple of solomon was built to be a

1855
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:30,560
giant human body in stone

1856
01:23:34,390 --> 01:23:32,480
much the same way that the egyptian

1857
01:23:36,229 --> 01:23:34,400
temples were were built

1858
01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:36,239
and the same way that the cathedrals

1859
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:37,360
were built

1860
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:39,679
and so when the ark was put in the

1861
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:42,159
sanctum sanctorum

1862
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:44,320
or the holy of holies of solomon's

1863
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:45,280
temple

1864
01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:47,280
this spot

1865
01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:49,440
accordingly in the human body would

1866
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:52,000
correspond to the brow or the

1867
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:54,480
or the forehead or the third eye

1868
01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:56,000
and this is of course

1869
01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:57,760
you know the arc was described as a

1870
01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:00,880
communication device with god

1871
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:03,840
well you know symbolically

1872
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:05,679
you know you could say we have our own

1873
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:08,400
symbolic arcs within ourselves you know

1874
01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:10,800
within our heads within our foreheads

1875
01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:12,960
that's that acts as a communication

1876
01:24:18,229 --> 01:24:17,440
device with god as well but uh

1877
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:18,239
but

1878
01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:20,239
uh beyond that there was an actual

1879
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:22,719
technology to this

1880
01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:23,290
uh

1881
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:24,480
[Music]

1882
01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:28,000
the holy grail yeah all right now

1883
01:24:34,870 --> 01:24:31,040
i was talking about monty python earlier

1884
01:24:37,189 --> 01:24:34,880
and uh and in a strange way that story

1885
01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:37,199
made it out to the masses and and

1886
01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:40,239
allowed us to do a deeper dive outside

1887
01:24:42,830 --> 01:24:41,920
of the comedy but there

1888
01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:42,840
um

1889
01:24:48,470 --> 01:24:45,920
uh the story itself you know going back

1890
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:48,480
to parcelville and and and some of the

1891
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:50,480
other uh stories

1892
01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:53,440
uh in the past and the reference to the

1893
01:25:00,390 --> 01:24:54,800
holy grail

1894
01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:00,400
um and even in uh in monty python

1895
01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:03,679
they they they call it the the growl

1896
01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:06,560
yeah they spelled it uh a different way

1897
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:08,639
which i always found interesting okay so

1898
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:10,719
let's go to the holy grail

1899
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:13,360
what is the holy grail

1900
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:15,760
we've got so many different modern

1901
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:18,960
versions of it uh out there now and of

1902
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:22,400
course dan brown and in his version of

1903
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:24,639
it and it's the bloodline

1904
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,480
of of christ

1905
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:28,960
what is the holy grail and do the

1906
01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:32,000
knights templar have it

1907
01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:33,920
yeah so there were two

1908
01:25:38,790 --> 01:25:36,480
well there were basically three types of

1909
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:38,800
grail i mean one did absolutely

1910
01:25:44,229 --> 01:25:41,199
represent this bloodline

1911
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:44,239
from jesus and mary magdalene

1912
01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:46,080
and also

1913
01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:48,800
john the baptist and mary magdalene

1914
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:50,800
which is

1915
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:52,880
you know going to be controversial to

1916
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:55,760
some but at least you know the the text

1917
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:58,000
that we have suggests and the

1918
01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:59,520
some of the artifacts that we've

1919
01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:00,800
acquired

1920
01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:03,520
uh definitely suggests that mary

1921
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:06,560
magdalene was married

1922
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:08,800
first to john the baptist and then when

1923
01:26:13,270 --> 01:26:10,560
john died uh

1924
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:13,280
she was married to jesus and they had

1925
01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:15,760
she had children with both of them

1926
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:17,199
so this is the you know kind of the

1927
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:18,480
first thing that people are gonna have

1928
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:20,400
to wrap their heads around but then the

1929
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:22,719
second thing is you know really the only

1930
01:26:28,149 --> 01:26:25,360
value of that bloodline was they were

1931
01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:28,159
preserving a certain knowledge

1932
01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:30,560
and this knowledge goes back to the

1933
01:26:36,070 --> 01:26:33,199
second aspect of the grail which was

1934
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:36,080
this alchemical science

1935
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:38,480
which was the science of

1936
01:26:41,669 --> 01:26:40,560
creating this mana

1937
01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:41,679
in fact

1938
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:44,320
if you look at the earliest sumerian

1939
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:45,440
texts

1940
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:48,239
where it talks about this

1941
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:51,120
science that the anunnaki gave to

1942
01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:52,960
mankind

1943
01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:56,719
it was referred to as gra all

1944
01:27:02,229 --> 01:26:59,520
g-r-a-dot-a-l

1945
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:02,239
this is the earliest

1946
01:27:08,149 --> 01:27:04,880
use of this word that we ever find is

1947
01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:08,159
gra all and it alluded to the alchemical

1948
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:09,280
science

1949
01:27:16,149 --> 01:27:12,800
and it was

1950
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:16,159
believed that if you knew how to

1951
01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:19,840
do this science that you could uh

1952
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:22,159
generate the technologies not only for

1953
01:27:24,550 --> 01:27:23,120
health

1954
01:27:27,189 --> 01:27:24,560
and power

1955
01:27:28,709 --> 01:27:27,199
but also to

1956
01:27:30,550 --> 01:27:28,719
um

1957
01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:30,560
literally get off this planet in the

1958
01:27:36,070 --> 01:27:33,679
form of flight can i can i jump in for a

1959
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:36,080
second before we get to the break

1960
01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:37,600
i believe

1961
01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:38,639
um

1962
01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:39,840
that

1963
01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:43,520
in those sumerian texts on those tablets

1964
01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:47,199
that they also referred to a process

1965
01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:50,000
of powdering gold

1966
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:50,719
to

1967
01:28:02,390 --> 01:27:59,360
was also a reference of powdering gold

1968
01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:02,400
and it just never made any sense to

1969
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:05,120
to a lot of this but but it's also what

1970
01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:07,840
you're describing here uh

1971
01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:11,040
with the knights templar mana and the

1972
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:14,639
operation of the ark absolutely and in

1973
01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:17,600
fact uh even uh even in the story

1974
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:18,880
parsival

1975
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:21,520
by wolfram von eschenbach which was

1976
01:28:24,790 --> 01:28:23,760
written in the twelve hundreds

1977
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:24,800
uh

1978
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:27,360
it in wolfram von eschenbach was a

1979
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:28,800
templar

1980
01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:31,679
he says that the guardians of the grail

1981
01:28:34,629 --> 01:28:33,760
are the knights templar

1982
01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:34,639
and

1983
01:28:40,470 --> 01:28:37,440
one of the descriptions of the grail is

1984
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:40,480
it says it is a stone

1985
01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:43,360
that burns the phoenix to ashes after

1986
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:45,920
which it comes back renewed well this is

1987
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:48,639
a clear alchemical metaphor

1988
01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:52,239
i mean it's alluding to the same

1989
01:28:58,390 --> 01:28:55,600
process and so this is in the 1200s

1990
01:29:00,790 --> 01:28:58,400
where where this was being alluded to

1991
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:00,800
so this is kind of the second

1992
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:06,320
grail aspect the third grail aspect was

1993
01:29:10,629 --> 01:29:08,800
philosophically the grail

1994
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:10,639
represented

1995
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:13,040
the meeting point between

1996
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:14,880
where

1997
01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:20,310
connects

1998
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:22,880
with the consciousness of the creator

1999
01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:24,560
whatever you want to call the creator

2000
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:27,120
you want to call it god or allah or

2001
01:29:30,709 --> 01:29:29,440
krishna or whatever whatever you want to

2002
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:30,719
call it

2003
01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:33,120
the name doesn't matter so much

2004
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:35,280
um el ilean

2005
01:29:42,229 --> 01:29:39,280
uh what but it but it did represent

2006
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:42,239
the place where our consciousness our

2007
01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:44,719
individual consciousness

2008
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:46,639
connected

2009
01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:49,120
with the god consciousness the the

2010
01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:50,800
creator consciousness

2011
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:52,719
or in other words

2012
01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:54,880
uh within the gnostic tradition this was

2013
01:30:01,030 --> 01:29:57,360
referred to as gnosis

2014
01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:01,040
or divine experiential knowledge

2015
01:30:06,709 --> 01:30:03,520
revelatory knowledge

2016
01:30:09,669 --> 01:30:06,719
that anybody could attain you didn't

2017
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:09,679
need a priest to do it

2018
01:30:15,590 --> 01:30:12,400
which was part of the reason why uh

2019
01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:15,600
you know the roman church became so

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01:30:18,550 --> 01:30:17,440
uh

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01:30:21,189 --> 01:30:18,560
you know

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01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:21,199
uh

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01:30:26,950 --> 01:30:24,800
hard on the gnostic groups because

2024
01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:26,960
they were bad for business basically it

2025
01:30:32,229 --> 01:30:29,440
was the real knowledge um let me ask you

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01:30:36,149 --> 01:30:32,239
this before the break how did the

2027
01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:36,159
uh the chalice the the the last supper

2028
01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:39,440
version of the grail come into the mix

2029
01:30:43,830 --> 01:30:41,360
misdirection

2030
01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:43,840
no i mean i mean ultimately the the

2031
01:30:48,310 --> 01:30:46,320
grail is a container

2032
01:30:50,229 --> 01:30:48,320
uh it's just a question of what kind of

2033
01:30:52,870 --> 01:30:50,239
container is it

2034
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:52,880
uh in one of the one of the the grail

2035
01:30:58,390 --> 01:30:55,600
legends it even says that the grail was

2036
01:31:01,510 --> 01:30:58,400
an emerald that that that there was a

2037
01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:01,520
war in heaven and and uh

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01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:02,639
michael

2039
01:31:10,550 --> 01:31:07,920
out of the crown of lucifer

2040
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:10,560
and this crowd this emerald was brought

2041
01:31:17,510 --> 01:31:15,280
to earth by neutral angels and uh

2042
01:31:20,550 --> 01:31:17,520
and that this became known as the holy

2043
01:31:22,790 --> 01:31:20,560
grail this this particular

2044
01:31:23,669 --> 01:31:22,800
crown and some say it was made into a

2045
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:23,679
cup

2046
01:31:29,750 --> 01:31:26,880
others say it was made into a tablet

2047
01:31:34,149 --> 01:31:29,760
and of course this is the origin of the

2048
01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:34,159
quote-unquote emerald tablet of hermes

2049
01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:36,400
which is a tablet of alchemical

2050
01:31:39,270 --> 01:31:37,679
instruction

2051
01:31:42,709 --> 01:31:39,280
let's take our break right here our

2052
01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:42,719
guest tonight timothy hogan worldwide

2053
01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:44,639
grand master of the knights templar here

2054
01:31:52,629 --> 01:31:47,440
with us for the first time

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01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:54,709
i am having a good time this is fade to

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01:31:58,629 --> 01:31:56,400
black i am real jimmy church we'll be

2057
01:32:01,130 --> 01:31:58,639
right back after the short break stay

2058
01:32:12,310 --> 01:32:01,140
with us

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[Music]

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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you're listening to fade to black

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[Applause]

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you're listening to jimmy church and

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fade to black

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2168
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hi i'm lisa vance you're listening to

2169
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jimmy church this is revolution the

2170
01:37:18,830 --> 01:37:16,320
revolution will not be televised the

2171
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revolution is on

2172
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[Music]

2173
01:37:54,510 --> 01:38:00,160
[Applause]

2174
01:38:00,170 --> 01:38:04,950
[Music]

2175
01:38:09,830 --> 01:38:06,709
i had a hot mic the whole time did

2176
01:38:12,490 --> 01:38:09,840
everybody hear me burning sage

2177
01:38:13,990 --> 01:38:12,500
i'm saging i'm i've got incense going

2178
01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:14,000
[Music]

2179
01:38:16,950 --> 01:38:15,520
i don't want to get in any trouble

2180
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:16,960
tonight

2181
01:38:19,750 --> 01:38:18,239
and uh

2182
01:38:21,830 --> 01:38:19,760
i'm wondering if everybody heard that

2183
01:38:22,950 --> 01:38:21,840
going on in the background i'm saging

2184
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:22,960
i'm

2185
01:38:26,470 --> 01:38:24,719
kidding

2186
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:26,480
because i want to talk about the true

2187
01:38:29,030 --> 01:38:27,600
cross

2188
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:29,040
there were so

2189
01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:32,880
many missions and

2190
01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:35,280
everybody was on the hunt for the true

2191
01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:36,560
cross and

2192
01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:39,600
um as you know tim over the years there

2193
01:38:42,470 --> 01:38:40,480
um

2194
01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:42,480
have been many stories

2195
01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:46,320
uh i've a folklore myth legend about uh

2196
01:38:51,910 --> 01:38:48,400
pieces of the true cross brought into

2197
01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:51,920
battle right and and um in every

2198
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:55,040
instance of that throughout history

2199
01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:57,040
those pieces of the cross have

2200
01:39:01,830 --> 01:38:58,880
disappeared don't know if it was the you

2201
01:39:03,669 --> 01:39:01,840
know what wasn't it helen that was you

2202
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:03,679
know put a bounty on all of this stuff

2203
01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:04,480
and

2204
01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:10,080
uh

2205
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:14,400
true cross itself

2206
01:39:17,830 --> 01:39:15,520
you know i

2207
01:39:21,109 --> 01:39:17,840
i'm skeptical of that claim to be

2208
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:21,119
totally honest i mean we

2209
01:39:36,950 --> 01:39:23,040
i

2210
01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:36,960
whether they were actually the true

2211
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:40,719
cross or not um i i don't know to be

2212
01:39:45,109 --> 01:39:43,440
totally honest i don't know

2213
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:45,119
i don't i don't think so though i've

2214
01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:47,040
heard that if uh

2215
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:50,400
if they took all of the splinters

2216
01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:52,560
that had been disseminated of all the

2217
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:55,520
pieces of the two true cross

2218
01:39:58,790 --> 01:39:56,639
uh

2219
01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:58,800
you know that had been

2220
01:40:02,790 --> 01:40:00,880
labeled in the world and you were to put

2221
01:40:03,510 --> 01:40:02,800
them all together that it would actually

2222
01:40:05,590 --> 01:40:03,520
be

2223
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:05,600
enough wood to build you know several

2224
01:40:08,790 --> 01:40:07,280
houses

2225
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:08,800
i've heard the same thing yeah i've

2226
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:11,440
heard the same thing um uh spear of

2227
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:13,920
destiny

2228
01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:19,040
holy lance that was definitely one of

2229
01:40:24,790 --> 01:40:23,600
the artifacts that was uh reclaimed and

2230
01:40:27,350 --> 01:40:24,800
uh

2231
01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:27,360
you know now there's

2232
01:40:30,870 --> 01:40:29,760
you know anyone looking into history

2233
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:30,880
will

2234
01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:34,480
can find that uh that lance

2235
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:36,719
the hapsburgs eventually got it and it

2236
01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:39,040
wound up in the habsburg treasure house

2237
01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:40,239
and then

2238
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:42,560
adolf hitler got a hold of it at one

2239
01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:45,360
point in time and uh

2240
01:40:51,109 --> 01:40:48,159
and by some accounts uh

2241
01:40:54,070 --> 01:40:51,119
a replica of it was put back in the the

2242
01:40:56,310 --> 01:40:54,080
habsburg trader house and then uh the

2243
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:56,320
the original one was secured by the

2244
01:41:01,030 --> 01:40:59,280
americans and and now it's in a

2245
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:01,040
probably in a warehouse somewhere a

2246
01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:04,480
private collection in the united

2247
01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:05,840
i've heard the same thing that the one

2248
01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:08,239
that is in austria now right in the

2249
01:41:15,189 --> 01:41:11,520
museum is is a replica yeah

2250
01:41:16,470 --> 01:41:15,199
and the real one um i think these are

2251
01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:16,480
pretty

2252
01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:22,080
here in the united states yeah

2253
01:41:25,750 --> 01:41:24,239
but not with the knights templar but not

2254
01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:25,760
with the nice templar no we don't we

2255
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:28,080
don't have that with us at this time we

2256
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:30,000
have a lot of other really cool things

2257
01:41:32,550 --> 01:41:30,719
but

2258
01:41:36,510 --> 01:41:32,560
like white like white

2259
01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:36,520
well so uh i mentioned the arcs uh

2260
01:41:43,189 --> 01:41:40,000
accordingly we also have uh

2261
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,199
ossuaries with the bones of certain

2262
01:41:47,430 --> 01:41:45,199
holy figures

2263
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:47,440
that we're hanging on to

2264
01:41:49,910 --> 01:41:48,480
um

2265
01:41:52,870 --> 01:41:49,920
well okay

2266
01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:52,880
you just can't get away with

2267
01:41:58,629 --> 01:41:56,880
without naming names oscillaries of whom

2268
01:42:00,629 --> 01:41:58,639
uh well

2269
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:00,639
what we they would be referred to as the

2270
01:42:05,910 --> 01:42:03,040
holy families so it would be you know

2271
01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:05,920
john the baptist jesus mary magdalene

2272
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:07,600
and their kids

2273
01:42:11,189 --> 01:42:09,119
uh that were all

2274
01:42:14,870 --> 01:42:11,199
buried together in a tomb in east

2275
01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:14,880
jerusalem uh the tomb was raided

2276
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:17,280
clear back in the 1200s

2277
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:21,040
the bones were removed and uh they were

2278
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:22,880
secured away

2279
01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:25,199
and ultimately brought to the new world

2280
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:27,199
where they reside in one of our vaults

2281
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:29,119
to this day

2282
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:34,320
um has there been any testing um on

2283
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:37,679
you know dna on these bones

2284
01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:40,080
we have not done any testing of dna on

2285
01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:41,600
them no

2286
01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:43,920
would you welcome testing

2287
01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:44,719
yeah

2288
01:42:52,790 --> 01:42:50,159
mean uh i have no problem with that um

2289
01:42:54,149 --> 01:42:52,800
you know the biggest hurdle

2290
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:54,159
you know

2291
01:42:58,149 --> 01:42:56,639
i think one of the

2292
01:43:00,709 --> 01:42:58,159
one of the biggest hurdles that we're

2293
01:43:01,990 --> 01:43:00,719
trying to get over with all of this is

2294
01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:02,000
that

2295
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:07,270
we're not trying to invalidate anybody's

2296
01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:08,880
beliefs

2297
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,360
uh we're just trying to say that there

2298
01:43:17,510 --> 01:43:13,280
might be a little bit more

2299
01:43:19,430 --> 01:43:17,520
to the story than what people have been

2300
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:19,440
you know the pill they've been

2301
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:21,280
sold like or whatever however you want

2302
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:22,560
to put that

2303
01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:24,800
and that um

2304
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:25,760
you know

2305
01:43:31,109 --> 01:43:28,000
for a number of christians they they

2306
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:31,119
believe that you know jesus bodily

2307
01:43:35,189 --> 01:43:34,000
raised from the dead and went to heaven

2308
01:43:36,470 --> 01:43:35,199
and

2309
01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:36,480
to find

2310
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:39,040
bones of jesus kind of contradicts that

2311
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:40,960
narrative which is which could be a

2312
01:43:45,910 --> 01:43:43,360
problem if you're just interpreting it

2313
01:43:47,270 --> 01:43:45,920
literally that he literally bodily went

2314
01:43:50,229 --> 01:43:47,280
to heaven

2315
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:52,870
some of the texts that we've

2316
01:43:58,550 --> 01:43:55,280
continued to pass down

2317
01:44:00,310 --> 01:43:58,560
tend to suggest more along the lines of

2318
01:44:01,990 --> 01:44:00,320
uh you know heaven was a state of

2319
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:02,000
consciousness

2320
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:03,679
and uh

2321
01:44:08,470 --> 01:44:06,080
and that to be born again literally

2322
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:08,480
meant to be born again it was it was

2323
01:44:12,629 --> 01:44:11,119
reincarnation and

2324
01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:12,639
so there was

2325
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:15,520
reincarnation in the early

2326
01:44:21,990 --> 01:44:18,639
doctrines of the of the church which are

2327
01:44:23,510 --> 01:44:22,000
within the christianity which

2328
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:23,520
um

2329
01:44:27,109 --> 01:44:25,600
you know is not being currently taught

2330
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:27,119
today

2331
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:29,199
but it doesn't

2332
01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:31,520
if you look at it from that perspective

2333
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:33,600
it doesn't it shouldn't be a problem if

2334
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:35,600
there's bones of jesus

2335
01:44:38,790 --> 01:44:37,360
because it doesn't mean he's he's gone

2336
01:44:42,310 --> 01:44:38,800
doesn't mean he's dead it just means

2337
01:44:45,109 --> 01:44:42,320
he's you know went on to a new form

2338
01:44:47,189 --> 01:44:45,119
and so the ossuaries uh i'm very

2339
01:44:49,030 --> 01:44:47,199
interested in this and

2340
01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:49,040
for those that may not understand in

2341
01:44:55,430 --> 01:44:50,560
these tombs

2342
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:55,440
the ossuaries um were small stone boxes

2343
01:45:03,750 --> 01:45:00,320
and that that contained the bones of the

2344
01:45:06,149 --> 01:45:03,760
person the deceased and they were stored

2345
01:45:08,310 --> 01:45:06,159
uh some on shelves right uh stone

2346
01:45:11,109 --> 01:45:08,320
shelves and and uh

2347
01:45:13,830 --> 01:45:11,119
uh what's the words uh that i wanna use

2348
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:13,840
um when you have an opening and then you

2349
01:45:20,629 --> 01:45:16,800
would uh put the boxes there seal the

2350
01:45:23,030 --> 01:45:20,639
tomb yep and and this one uh

2351
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:23,040
this was part of the tradition in in uh

2352
01:45:28,070 --> 01:45:26,239
very early jerusalem yeah um and that

2353
01:45:29,109 --> 01:45:28,080
this one tomb

2354
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:29,119
um

2355
01:45:32,870 --> 01:45:31,920
had the family of jesus there and and

2356
01:45:33,830 --> 01:45:32,880
others

2357
01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:33,840
so

2358
01:45:40,870 --> 01:45:37,520
these stone boxes were removed

2359
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:40,880
and then brought here to the americas

2360
01:45:45,990 --> 01:45:43,760
yeah ultimately yeah they well not all

2361
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:46,000
the boxes were removed but definitely

2362
01:45:51,510 --> 01:45:49,040
the contents of the boxes were removed

2363
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:51,520
and brought here to the americas yeah

2364
01:45:55,030 --> 01:45:52,480
where they

2365
01:45:57,750 --> 01:45:55,040
reside to this day now

2366
01:45:58,550 --> 01:45:57,760
i envision and we're going to continue

2367
01:46:00,790 --> 01:45:58,560
uh

2368
01:46:03,030 --> 01:46:00,800
but i envision like a press conference

2369
01:46:05,990 --> 01:46:03,040
right what do you do right yeah

2370
01:46:08,950 --> 01:46:06,000
okay so here's here's an ark

2371
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:08,960
here's an ossuary with joseph and jesus

2372
01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:12,159
yeah and and over here we've got a

2373
01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:13,520
container

2374
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:18,080
of of mana that powered the art i and is

2375
01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:20,320
that is that how this is going to be

2376
01:46:24,629 --> 01:46:22,639
done i think that'll yes that'll be

2377
01:46:25,590 --> 01:46:24,639
that'll be kind of how it'll be

2378
01:46:27,350 --> 01:46:25,600
um

2379
01:46:29,189 --> 01:46:27,360
and we'll have to set it up in such a

2380
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:29,199
way that

2381
01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:30,880
uh it's

2382
01:46:36,629 --> 01:46:33,840
you know it's gonna it's not gonna be

2383
01:46:38,830 --> 01:46:36,639
controlled by any one government because

2384
01:46:41,910 --> 01:46:38,840
you know gonna be

2385
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:41,920
uh you know you're gonna have uh

2386
01:46:46,229 --> 01:46:44,159
phillies trying to claim it you're gonna

2387
01:46:48,149 --> 01:46:46,239
have spanish trying to claim it you're

2388
01:46:49,750 --> 01:46:48,159
gonna have the united states government

2389
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:49,760
trying to claim it

2390
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:51,760
you're gonna have rome trying to claim

2391
01:46:56,390 --> 01:46:52,560
it

2392
01:46:58,229 --> 01:46:56,400
uh so you know that's gonna be uh

2393
01:47:02,149 --> 01:46:58,239
and it really doesn't belong to any of

2394
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:02,159
them it belongs to to everybody and

2395
01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:04,000
and so this is one of the hurdles that

2396
01:47:10,229 --> 01:47:05,679
we gotta

2397
01:47:17,350 --> 01:47:14,149
friday the 13th goes down and and the

2398
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:17,360
ship there was knowledge of what was

2399
01:47:23,189 --> 01:47:20,480
about to happen and the orders that were

2400
01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:23,199
done uh and instituted by philip the

2401
01:47:27,350 --> 01:47:24,320
fair

2402
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:27,360
and the ships are loaded up and and head

2403
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:28,960
out yep

2404
01:47:33,430 --> 01:47:30,239
was it

2405
01:47:35,669 --> 01:47:33,440
just to the americas or did they go to

2406
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:35,679
other countries as well now they went to

2407
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:37,679
other countries as well i mean initially

2408
01:47:42,229 --> 01:47:41,040
they went uh up to portugal and to

2409
01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:42,239
scotland

2410
01:47:46,070 --> 01:47:44,639
you know as i mentioned uh

2411
01:47:47,830 --> 01:47:46,080
but then they went

2412
01:47:50,149 --> 01:47:47,840
the americas they went across the way to

2413
01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:50,159
the americas they'd already been trading

2414
01:47:53,990 --> 01:47:52,400
silver with the mayans

2415
01:47:56,550 --> 01:47:54,000
uh for

2416
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:56,560
for you know 100 years

2417
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:58,480
prior to that so

2418
01:48:02,310 --> 01:48:00,239
there there was and and they were

2419
01:48:04,550 --> 01:48:02,320
already working with other tribes and

2420
01:48:05,669 --> 01:48:04,560
and honestly this is really the reason

2421
01:48:09,910 --> 01:48:05,679
why

2422
01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:09,920
christopher columbus flew the templar

2423
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:12,960
cross on his ships when he went over to

2424
01:48:16,390 --> 01:48:14,960
the new world it's because he knew that

2425
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:16,400
they would

2426
01:48:25,750 --> 01:48:22,400
uh you know christopher columbus himself

2427
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:25,760
was not a templar but he uh

2428
01:48:29,750 --> 01:48:27,679
he had

2429
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:29,760
uh pulled

2430
01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:32,000
one of the grand masters of the of the

2431
01:48:36,870 --> 01:48:34,159
knights templar his his daughter was in

2432
01:48:39,189 --> 01:48:36,880
a convent and he pulled her out of the

2433
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:39,199
convent and married her and was able to

2434
01:48:43,669 --> 01:48:42,159
secure the the the maps from her some of

2435
01:48:46,390 --> 01:48:43,679
the maps from her

2436
01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:46,400
he went to portugal and said

2437
01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:48,880
hey fund me to go over to the new world

2438
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:51,280
i know there's land across the way and

2439
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:52,800
basically

2440
01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:55,920
portugal was like well you know

2441
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:57,760
screw you we already know that there's

2442
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:59,119
land over there because they were

2443
01:49:02,950 --> 01:49:00,800
already protecting the templars when

2444
01:49:05,430 --> 01:49:02,960
they went underground

2445
01:49:07,109 --> 01:49:05,440
and so christopher columbus was like

2446
01:49:08,950 --> 01:49:07,119
well fine if you're not going to support

2447
01:49:10,950 --> 01:49:08,960
me then i'm going to go to your enemies

2448
01:49:12,870 --> 01:49:10,960
that's how he went to spain

2449
01:49:15,590 --> 01:49:12,880
who ended up funding him

2450
01:49:17,510 --> 01:49:15,600
to to go to come to the the quote

2451
01:49:19,669 --> 01:49:17,520
unquote new world that the templars had

2452
01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:19,679
already been exploring

2453
01:49:23,270 --> 01:49:21,440
and once you know this it kind of

2454
01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:23,280
explains why

2455
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:24,400
uh

2456
01:49:31,430 --> 01:49:25,119
the

2457
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:31,440
such pains to try to

2458
01:49:36,709 --> 01:49:34,800
persecute the indigenous populations in

2459
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:36,719
the americas because they were looking

2460
01:49:40,070 --> 01:49:38,639
for these artifacts

2461
01:49:41,270 --> 01:49:40,080
they knew they had been brought over

2462
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:41,280
here they just didn't know where they

2463
01:49:44,390 --> 01:49:43,119
were

2464
01:49:51,910 --> 01:49:44,400
the

2465
01:49:54,470 --> 01:49:51,920
done

2466
01:49:57,910 --> 01:49:54,480
not only with the trips uh that they

2467
01:49:59,350 --> 01:49:57,920
made over here but the inventory

2468
01:50:01,030 --> 01:49:59,360
the maps

2469
01:50:04,310 --> 01:50:01,040
the dates

2470
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:04,320
this has to exist do the knights templar

2471
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:07,679
have uh this documentation today

2472
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:11,040
yeah we have the ship logs of of the

2473
01:50:15,990 --> 01:50:13,360
trips over and then there's a number of

2474
01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:16,000
archaeological sites around the new

2475
01:50:19,189 --> 01:50:17,679
world um

2476
01:50:21,350 --> 01:50:19,199
that uh

2477
01:50:22,629 --> 01:50:21,360
and markers that had been left by the

2478
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:22,639
order

2479
01:50:27,910 --> 01:50:25,280
uh back in time uh you know scott

2480
01:50:29,590 --> 01:50:27,920
walters done an incredible job trying to

2481
01:50:32,629 --> 01:50:29,600
track these down

2482
01:50:34,950 --> 01:50:32,639
uh i got to put props out to him

2483
01:50:36,830 --> 01:50:34,960
in his his research he's been doing with

2484
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:36,840
that

2485
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:38,480
um uh

2486
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:41,199
yeah i mean and and there are tribes

2487
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:44,000
that exist to this day who

2488
01:50:49,030 --> 01:50:47,440
retain the memory of their association

2489
01:50:51,830 --> 01:50:49,040
with

2490
01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:51,840
uh templars in in times past and we

2491
01:50:55,189 --> 01:50:54,080
continue to have those associations to

2492
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:55,199
this day

2493
01:51:00,390 --> 01:50:56,880
have you seen

2494
01:51:03,430 --> 01:51:00,400
uh uh scott's stuff and he he's hinging

2495
01:51:08,709 --> 01:51:03,440
on every word by the way right he's like

2496
01:51:11,830 --> 01:51:08,719
go team um is is is one thing but have

2497
01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:11,840
have you seen the documentation as you

2498
01:51:15,350 --> 01:51:13,199
know the grand master of the nice

2499
01:51:17,430 --> 01:51:15,360
templar have you seen these documents

2500
01:51:19,350 --> 01:51:17,440
and this is part of

2501
01:51:22,629 --> 01:51:19,360
any press conference right that you're

2502
01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:22,639
gonna somebody's going to ask okay well

2503
01:51:27,750 --> 01:51:25,040
where is the documentation to represent

2504
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:27,760
this have you seen the documentation

2505
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:28,960
that the knights templar is in

2506
01:51:35,350 --> 01:51:32,320
possession of and will this be shown

2507
01:51:37,189 --> 01:51:35,360
to the world they will yeah all of this

2508
01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:37,199
will be revealed i mean that's that's

2509
01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:39,840
the plan is to just get all of this out

2510
01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:41,440
with the hopes

2511
01:51:45,189 --> 01:51:43,760
of bringing us together as a world

2512
01:51:49,270 --> 01:51:45,199
community

2513
01:51:51,750 --> 01:51:49,280
uh where we not in a not like in a one

2514
01:51:54,149 --> 01:51:51,760
world new world order type of way in

2515
01:51:55,750 --> 01:51:54,159
which you have some government trying to

2516
01:51:58,550 --> 01:51:55,760
control everybody

2517
01:52:01,270 --> 01:51:58,560
but more uh you know getting us

2518
01:52:04,149 --> 01:52:01,280
it's a reset back to

2519
01:52:06,470 --> 01:52:04,159
you know recognizing the humanity in in

2520
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:06,480
all of us and we're all inheritors of

2521
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:11,679
this tradition so how many um okay

2522
01:52:16,070 --> 01:52:13,440
again i'm not being cavalier this is

2523
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:16,080
like a serious question we all want a

2524
01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:19,599
treasure map with x marks the spot right

2525
01:52:23,589 --> 01:52:21,760
i want to do that someday and somehow

2526
01:52:25,750 --> 01:52:23,599
scott walter gets to do that every day

2527
01:52:28,870 --> 01:52:25,760
and i'm totally jealous but

2528
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:28,880
we all want that how many

2529
01:52:36,870 --> 01:52:33,119
spots location in in north america

2530
01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:36,880
are there where x marks the spot

2531
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:38,800
well i mean there's a number i mean at

2532
01:52:42,709 --> 01:52:41,280
one point in time there were uh seven

2533
01:52:46,310 --> 01:52:42,719
volts

2534
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:46,320
and uh some of those vaults had been

2535
01:52:56,709 --> 01:52:48,719
some of the

2536
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:56,719
vaults were actually used to fund

2537
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:58,960
things like the american revolutionary

2538
01:53:02,870 --> 01:53:00,400
war

2539
01:53:05,270 --> 01:53:02,880
my my great grandfather seven

2540
01:53:06,870 --> 01:53:05,280
generations back was general joseph

2541
01:53:08,629 --> 01:53:06,880
warren who was

2542
01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:08,639
uh the grand master of the knights

2543
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:09,679
templar

2544
01:53:14,550 --> 01:53:12,000
back then and he was the father of the

2545
01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:14,560
american revolutionary war he initiated

2546
01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:16,480
paul revere

2547
01:53:21,350 --> 01:53:18,880
to kind of give you an idea

2548
01:53:26,390 --> 01:53:21,360
and uh

2549
01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:26,400
was uh

2550
01:53:32,470 --> 01:53:29,760
some of this treasure was used to fund

2551
01:53:35,669 --> 01:53:32,480
the revolutionary war in order to try to

2552
01:53:37,589 --> 01:53:35,679
create a free country where there was

2553
01:53:40,470 --> 01:53:37,599
freedom of speech and freedom of

2554
01:53:43,109 --> 01:53:40,480
assembly and freedom of religion and all

2555
01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:43,119
these things that we take for granted in

2556
01:53:46,550 --> 01:53:44,400
which

2557
01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:46,560
it was believed that

2558
01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:49,280
our rights came from god

2559
01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:51,440
and not from the king not from the

2560
01:53:55,669 --> 01:53:52,400
church

2561
01:53:57,109 --> 01:53:55,679
but from god and or the creator whatever

2562
01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:57,119
you want to call it

2563
01:53:59,750 --> 01:53:58,320
um

2564
01:54:02,070 --> 01:53:59,760
in fact

2565
01:54:04,709 --> 01:54:02,080
you know one of the earliest texts that

2566
01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:04,719
mentions in fact the earliest text that

2567
01:54:12,790 --> 01:54:10,310
people have rights

2568
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:12,800
you know that does that comes from god

2569
01:54:17,430 --> 01:54:14,960
is the story participle in fact the

2570
01:54:20,629 --> 01:54:17,440
story parseval says if any templar

2571
01:54:22,790 --> 01:54:20,639
should become ruler of foreign people

2572
01:54:24,870 --> 01:54:22,800
let him ensure that they are given their

2573
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:24,880
god-given rights

2574
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,520
so this has always been a templar theme

2575
01:54:33,830 --> 01:54:29,840
this has always been a templar idea that

2576
01:54:37,109 --> 01:54:33,840
that people have god-given rights and

2577
01:54:42,390 --> 01:54:37,119
the united states was set up to be

2578
01:54:46,229 --> 01:54:43,830
safety

2579
01:54:50,229 --> 01:54:46,239
to reveal these things

2580
01:54:53,189 --> 01:54:50,239
and where everybody could be celebrated

2581
01:54:55,109 --> 01:54:53,199
regardless of their faith regardless of

2582
01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:55,119
their background

2583
01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:57,440
and

2584
01:55:04,629 --> 01:55:00,480
this is something that even

2585
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:04,639
even way back if we if we look at um

2586
01:55:10,030 --> 01:55:07,040
the former templar commander for example

2587
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:10,040
in istanbul or which was uh used to be

2588
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:11,920
constantinople

2589
01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:15,920
uh there's a crypt there in in it

2590
01:55:19,589 --> 01:55:18,480
there is buried jewish

2591
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:19,599
christian

2592
01:55:25,830 --> 01:55:23,679
and muslim templars all buried together

2593
01:55:27,589 --> 01:55:25,840
so this was something that

2594
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:27,599
i mean you don't even see in most

2595
01:55:32,390 --> 01:55:30,320
cemeteries today they separate people

2596
01:55:33,350 --> 01:55:32,400
based on religion

2597
01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:33,360
but

2598
01:55:37,109 --> 01:55:35,760
as far as templars were concerned you

2599
01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:37,119
know we're all

2600
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:40,480
we're all uh just

2601
01:55:44,470 --> 01:55:42,960
uh expressing

2602
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:44,480
you know the

2603
01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:47,360
almost the the cultural

2604
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:51,280
trappings of the same truths

2605
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:53,040
now

2606
01:55:58,390 --> 01:55:55,360
you mentioned that uh the

2607
01:56:01,350 --> 01:55:58,400
some of these artifacts

2608
01:56:02,950 --> 01:56:01,360
here in the americas at the seven vaults

2609
01:56:06,550 --> 01:56:02,960
in these locations

2610
01:56:09,109 --> 01:56:06,560
uh were used to fund the revolutionary

2611
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:09,119
war that means they went into private

2612
01:56:12,629 --> 01:56:10,400
hands

2613
01:56:14,790 --> 01:56:12,639
do we have records of

2614
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:14,800
who they were sold to

2615
01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:16,480
yeah i mean there were there were people

2616
01:56:21,189 --> 01:56:18,239
like benjamin franklin that were

2617
01:56:22,229 --> 01:56:21,199
involved in those transactions

2618
01:56:25,270 --> 01:56:22,239
um

2619
01:56:26,709 --> 01:56:25,280
james madison uh

2620
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:26,719
and others

2621
01:56:31,030 --> 01:56:28,320
you know when you think of the a lot of

2622
01:56:33,669 --> 01:56:31,040
the founding fathers they were a number

2623
01:56:36,709 --> 01:56:33,679
of them were involved in this

2624
01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:36,719
same secret in the same mission

2625
01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:39,840
and thomas jefferson and they were they

2626
01:56:46,390 --> 01:56:42,400
were trying to

2627
01:56:50,550 --> 01:56:46,400
both preserve what had been inherited

2628
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,990
trying to

2629
01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:56,070
you know having to use some of it in

2630
01:57:01,030 --> 01:56:58,960
order to create a free state

2631
01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:01,040
now before we get to the break when you

2632
01:57:06,390 --> 01:57:04,480
describe uh these seven locations

2633
01:57:08,390 --> 01:57:06,400
as vaults

2634
01:57:10,950 --> 01:57:08,400
are they actual vaults that were

2635
01:57:13,270 --> 01:57:10,960
constructed um or

2636
01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:13,280
you know built you know a vault as as we

2637
01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:14,639
picture a vault

2638
01:57:20,149 --> 01:57:16,800
or are they

2639
01:57:23,669 --> 01:57:20,159
natural locations caves if you will no

2640
01:57:25,910 --> 01:57:23,679
they are constructed vaults

2641
01:57:28,629 --> 01:57:25,920
and in fact uh

2642
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:28,639
one of the vaults one of the the

2643
01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:31,599
previous vaults that was used that's now

2644
01:57:36,629 --> 01:57:34,320
empty in uh

2645
01:57:38,790 --> 01:57:36,639
in lebanon and if if you want to do some

2646
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:38,800
research you can you can

2647
01:57:43,109 --> 01:57:41,199
find this there's a there's a saw

2648
01:57:45,430 --> 01:57:43,119
there's a spot that's referred to as

2649
01:57:47,109 --> 01:57:45,440
hiram's tomb

2650
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:47,119
uh and it's

2651
01:57:51,830 --> 01:57:49,520
everyone assumes it's this tomb for

2652
01:57:53,189 --> 01:57:51,840
hiram king of tire but it's it's

2653
01:57:55,910 --> 01:57:53,199
actually

2654
01:57:58,470 --> 01:57:55,920
not a tomb at all it was a vault

2655
01:58:00,790 --> 01:57:58,480
and there's a this location actually has

2656
01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:00,800
a secret

2657
01:58:05,109 --> 01:58:02,800
vault under it that and that's where

2658
01:58:07,030 --> 01:58:05,119
things were stored for a while

2659
01:58:08,629 --> 01:58:07,040
i mean they're eventually taken out of

2660
01:58:10,709 --> 01:58:08,639
there but there's still the vault

2661
01:58:13,350 --> 01:58:10,719
underneath there

2662
01:58:15,430 --> 01:58:13,360
and here in the united states uh these

2663
01:58:17,750 --> 01:58:15,440
seven locations these vaults are

2664
01:58:19,030 --> 01:58:17,760
constructed vaults they're constructed

2665
01:58:21,189 --> 01:58:19,040
volts yes

2666
01:58:23,189 --> 01:58:21,199
that's correct um

2667
01:58:25,430 --> 01:58:23,199
are they in cities

2668
01:58:27,669 --> 01:58:25,440
are they remote

2669
01:58:28,790 --> 01:58:27,679
some of them are remote and some of them

2670
01:58:30,709 --> 01:58:28,800
are

2671
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:30,719
yeah in cities

2672
01:58:34,950 --> 01:58:32,560
but they're in

2673
01:58:37,750 --> 01:58:34,960
they're in areas that people walk over

2674
01:58:41,589 --> 01:58:37,760
all the time not realizing it

2675
01:58:43,910 --> 01:58:41,599
and how many have you visited

2676
01:58:45,910 --> 01:58:43,920
well i visited three of them well i take

2677
01:58:47,109 --> 01:58:45,920
that back i visited four of them

2678
01:58:50,149 --> 01:58:47,119
personally

2679
01:58:55,669 --> 01:58:53,030
and we have people that watch over them

2680
01:58:56,709 --> 01:58:55,679
of course you do of course

2681
01:58:59,270 --> 01:58:56,719
um

2682
01:59:02,310 --> 01:58:59,280
and the four that you have been to i'm

2683
01:59:03,189 --> 01:59:02,320
going to get the info out of you tim my

2684
01:59:04,709 --> 01:59:03,199
job

2685
01:59:07,189 --> 01:59:04,719
um fair enough

2686
01:59:09,430 --> 01:59:07,199
are we talking about new york washington

2687
01:59:11,270 --> 01:59:09,440
dc chicago

2688
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:11,280
are you talking about major cities like

2689
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:13,840
that underneath a freemason temple in in

2690
01:59:18,550 --> 01:59:16,800
in manhattan yeah i mean i i i can't

2691
01:59:21,030 --> 01:59:18,560
quite i don't i don't want to quite get

2692
01:59:23,109 --> 01:59:21,040
into that yet but um

2693
01:59:24,470 --> 01:59:23,119
we'll be revealing it soon it won't be

2694
01:59:29,030 --> 01:59:24,480
long

2695
01:59:34,550 --> 01:59:32,310
manhattan washington dc is a fair bit

2696
01:59:36,870 --> 01:59:34,560
yeah it is

2697
01:59:37,830 --> 01:59:36,880
you think um

2698
01:59:40,149 --> 01:59:37,840
are we

2699
01:59:41,910 --> 01:59:40,159
we're gonna head to a break in a second

2700
01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:41,920
um and i know that i asked you this

2701
01:59:45,750 --> 01:59:43,599
question over the weekend so i'm going

2702
01:59:46,950 --> 01:59:45,760
to ask it again

2703
01:59:48,790 --> 01:59:46,960
um

2704
01:59:51,430 --> 01:59:48,800
a timetable

2705
01:59:54,470 --> 01:59:51,440
you know are we talking about 2022

2706
01:59:56,709 --> 01:59:54,480
before the year's out 2023

2707
01:59:59,109 --> 01:59:56,719
uh can you give me an idea of what we're

2708
02:00:01,350 --> 01:59:59,119
talking about here i've also asked scott

2709
02:00:02,950 --> 02:00:01,360
walter these same questions and i've

2710
02:00:03,910 --> 02:00:02,960
been putting the pressure on him for

2711
02:00:07,750 --> 02:00:03,920
years

2712
02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:07,760
um but once these dominoes start to fall

2713
02:00:11,830 --> 02:00:09,520
you just got to go for it you won't be

2714
02:00:13,750 --> 02:00:11,840
able to stop so what kind of timetable i

2715
02:00:15,430 --> 02:00:13,760
mean some of it's some of it's timing

2716
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:15,440
with what's happening in the world i

2717
02:00:19,270 --> 02:00:17,119
mean originally we were looking at

2718
02:00:23,350 --> 02:00:19,280
revealing some of this stuff clear back

2719
02:00:24,310 --> 02:00:23,360
in 2019 and then uh covid happened and

2720
02:00:26,390 --> 02:00:24,320
uh

2721
02:00:30,149 --> 02:00:26,400
really in the whole world started

2722
02:00:33,189 --> 02:00:30,159
changing by you know 2020 and

2723
02:00:36,070 --> 02:00:33,199
it just was not the right time or place

2724
02:00:38,310 --> 02:00:36,080
for it so but it it won't be long

2725
02:00:39,910 --> 02:00:38,320
that's that's all i can say i mean we we

2726
02:00:42,310 --> 02:00:39,920
still have to deal with the political

2727
02:00:45,350 --> 02:00:42,320
realities of

2728
02:00:47,669 --> 02:00:45,360
uh certain power structures

2729
02:00:49,830 --> 02:00:47,679
um and

2730
02:00:52,790 --> 02:00:49,840
so but and we have to get people

2731
02:00:54,470 --> 02:00:52,800
prepared for it as well and again that's

2732
02:00:56,629 --> 02:00:54,480
part of why i'm appearing on this show

2733
02:00:58,870 --> 02:00:56,639
with you is is because we have to get

2734
02:01:00,870 --> 02:00:58,880
people prepared for it

2735
02:01:04,870 --> 02:01:00,880
because they're not uh

2736
02:01:07,109 --> 02:01:04,880
much like the uh the whole uap thing

2737
02:01:10,070 --> 02:01:07,119
uh it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a

2738
02:01:11,510 --> 02:01:10,080
shift in how people think about things

2739
02:01:13,189 --> 02:01:11,520
let's take our break right here our

2740
02:01:15,830 --> 02:01:13,199
guest tonight grand master the nice

2741
02:01:17,589 --> 02:01:15,840
templar worldwide timothy hogan is with

2742
02:01:19,589 --> 02:01:17,599
us going to take a quick break we've got

2743
02:01:21,189 --> 02:01:19,599
a lot more to get to and we're going to

2744
02:01:24,230 --> 02:01:21,199
do all of it

2745
02:01:35,270 --> 02:01:24,240
right after this short break stay with

2746
02:01:37,030 --> 02:01:35,280
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2747
02:01:42,340 --> 02:01:37,040
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02:01:46,310 --> 02:01:43,830
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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight

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02:05:11,030 --> 02:05:08,480
timothy hogan is with us worldwide grand

2817
02:05:13,990 --> 02:05:11,040
master of the knights templar

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02:05:16,229 --> 02:05:14,000
and uh we've got a lot of uh

2819
02:05:19,589 --> 02:05:16,239
a lot of info that was dropped tonight

2820
02:05:21,830 --> 02:05:19,599
uh tim and and i know we've only

2821
02:05:23,669 --> 02:05:21,840
scratched the surface i want to get a

2822
02:05:26,310 --> 02:05:23,679
few more important

2823
02:05:27,830 --> 02:05:26,320
uh points in if i may because if we look

2824
02:05:29,430 --> 02:05:27,840
at history

2825
02:05:31,990 --> 02:05:29,440
um

2826
02:05:35,669 --> 02:05:32,000
there are a lot of holes a lot of gaps

2827
02:05:37,669 --> 02:05:35,679
and there's a lot of misleading

2828
02:05:39,830 --> 02:05:37,679
uh teaching that is going on in our

2829
02:05:42,870 --> 02:05:39,840
schools uh around the world and in

2830
02:05:45,030 --> 02:05:42,880
history books and and and such

2831
02:05:47,589 --> 02:05:45,040
but if uh

2832
02:05:49,270 --> 02:05:47,599
if these things are revealed you brought

2833
02:05:52,310 --> 02:05:49,280
up uh

2834
02:05:53,189 --> 02:05:52,320
the big a earlier you said atlantis

2835
02:05:55,990 --> 02:05:53,199
yeah

2836
02:05:57,430 --> 02:05:56,000
i want to circle back to that point

2837
02:05:59,910 --> 02:05:57,440
because

2838
02:06:03,750 --> 02:05:59,920
uh we are finding out more and more

2839
02:06:07,189 --> 02:06:03,760
today just through actual archaeology

2840
02:06:09,109 --> 02:06:07,199
that there were indeed uh high-tech

2841
02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:09,119
civilizations that had advanced

2842
02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:11,920
knowledge you know pre-dating

2843
02:06:18,149 --> 02:06:15,280
uh giza and ancient sumer by

2844
02:06:21,030 --> 02:06:18,159
uh thousands and thousands of years and

2845
02:06:22,709 --> 02:06:21,040
this is part of the the fact of the

2846
02:06:25,910 --> 02:06:22,719
historical record today and of course

2847
02:06:29,430 --> 02:06:25,920
i'm directly referencing gobekli tepe

2848
02:06:33,109 --> 02:06:29,440
and other sites uh that now predate gisa

2849
02:06:35,990 --> 02:06:33,119
um but if some of this information

2850
02:06:36,870 --> 02:06:36,000
is in possession of the knights templar

2851
02:06:39,189 --> 02:06:36,880
and

2852
02:06:42,069 --> 02:06:39,199
you know using a word like atlantis that

2853
02:06:45,910 --> 02:06:42,079
you can't speak in mainstream academia

2854
02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:45,920
you can't say that word um this is going

2855
02:06:50,470 --> 02:06:48,239
to upset quite a few people

2856
02:06:53,109 --> 02:06:50,480
when you say atlantis what are you

2857
02:06:54,390 --> 02:06:53,119
trying to refer to with the knowledge

2858
02:06:56,629 --> 02:06:54,400
that the knights templar is in

2859
02:06:58,390 --> 02:06:56,639
possession of well according i mean

2860
02:07:02,069 --> 02:06:58,400
according to our tradition i mean

2861
02:07:03,669 --> 02:07:02,079
atlantis was a global worldwide network

2862
02:07:06,950 --> 02:07:03,679
at one point in time that that

2863
02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:06,960
completely crashed from cataclysm

2864
02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:09,760
and that there were

2865
02:07:13,189 --> 02:07:11,119
pockets

2866
02:07:15,189 --> 02:07:13,199
uh that

2867
02:07:17,750 --> 02:07:15,199
survived that

2868
02:07:19,430 --> 02:07:17,760
that preserved certain information and

2869
02:07:20,950 --> 02:07:19,440
we find this

2870
02:07:23,030 --> 02:07:20,960
uh

2871
02:07:25,430 --> 02:07:23,040
you know we find this this myth talked

2872
02:07:28,149 --> 02:07:25,440
about in the americas with the nuado

2873
02:07:31,109 --> 02:07:28,159
cultures like uh the aztecs and the

2874
02:07:33,510 --> 02:07:31,119
mayans they they referred to this

2875
02:07:35,030 --> 02:07:33,520
previous civilization that they called

2876
02:07:36,950 --> 02:07:35,040
auslan

2877
02:07:38,470 --> 02:07:36,960
uh well it's not too

2878
02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:38,480
you know that was destroyed through

2879
02:07:44,229 --> 02:07:41,199
cataclysm and and uh

2880
02:07:45,030 --> 02:07:44,239
and you know it's sunk beneath the waves

2881
02:07:47,189 --> 02:07:45,040
uh

2882
02:07:49,510 --> 02:07:47,199
you know it's not too

2883
02:07:53,109 --> 02:07:49,520
much of a stretch for from

2884
02:07:54,390 --> 02:07:53,119
from otzilon to be similar to atlantis

2885
02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:54,400
that that

2886
02:07:59,270 --> 02:07:56,560
plato talked about

2887
02:08:04,790 --> 02:08:01,910
there are texts for example in egypt at

2888
02:08:06,629 --> 02:08:04,800
the edfu building texts that also allude

2889
02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:06,639
to this uh

2890
02:08:12,470 --> 02:08:09,119
this cataclysm that it occurred you know

2891
02:08:15,990 --> 02:08:12,480
prior to the the zep tepi the time

2892
02:08:19,189 --> 02:08:16,000
the time before the pharaohs ruled egypt

2893
02:08:20,950 --> 02:08:19,199
uh it refers to this this time when the

2894
02:08:23,350 --> 02:08:20,960
gods

2895
02:08:26,629 --> 02:08:23,360
uh were ruling this

2896
02:08:27,750 --> 02:08:26,639
this uh previous civilization and that

2897
02:08:29,270 --> 02:08:27,760
uh

2898
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:29,280
and that there was a again there was

2899
02:08:32,709 --> 02:08:30,880
some sort of a cataclysm and the

2900
02:08:34,310 --> 02:08:32,719
knowledge was brought to egypt i mean i

2901
02:08:37,589 --> 02:08:34,320
was just there

2902
02:08:41,030 --> 02:08:37,599
in may with uh johnny enoch and and

2903
02:08:43,510 --> 02:08:41,040
others taking a look at uh

2904
02:08:45,270 --> 02:08:43,520
you know the edfu temple and and others

2905
02:08:48,149 --> 02:08:45,280
that that

2906
02:08:51,030 --> 02:08:48,159
tell this story uh we'll be going back

2907
02:08:55,189 --> 02:08:51,040
there in march for anyone who wants to

2908
02:08:57,270 --> 02:08:55,199
go but it's it's going to be um

2909
02:09:00,069 --> 02:08:57,280
it's right there on the temple walls and

2910
02:09:01,910 --> 02:09:00,079
it's in egypt isn't the only tradition

2911
02:09:05,189 --> 02:09:01,920
like i said who talks about this i mean

2912
02:09:06,629 --> 02:09:05,199
the the maya and and aztec nuada

2913
02:09:08,149 --> 02:09:06,639
cultures

2914
02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:08,159
refer to it

2915
02:09:13,030 --> 02:09:10,960
there's uh there's druid traditions that

2916
02:09:15,109 --> 02:09:13,040
referred to it uh saint bernard

2917
02:09:17,189 --> 02:09:15,119
clairvaux who wrote the rule for the

2918
02:09:19,189 --> 02:09:17,199
templars originally clear back in the

2919
02:09:21,030 --> 02:09:19,199
1100s

2920
02:09:28,229 --> 02:09:21,040
he was

2921
02:09:30,830 --> 02:09:28,239
druid

2922
02:09:32,950 --> 02:09:30,840
and so he had inherited some of this

2923
02:09:35,430 --> 02:09:32,960
information and he was working with

2924
02:09:39,109 --> 02:09:35,440
people like rashi of trois

2925
02:09:41,270 --> 02:09:39,119
who was a very famous kabbalist

2926
02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:41,280
and

2927
02:09:47,830 --> 02:09:44,400
one of the texts that the templars were

2928
02:09:51,109 --> 02:09:47,840
said to have acquired and this is

2929
02:09:54,550 --> 02:09:51,119
through traditional jewish sources

2930
02:09:56,870 --> 02:09:54,560
uh was the the famous kabbalistic text

2931
02:10:00,149 --> 02:09:56,880
known as the zohar

2932
02:10:03,189 --> 02:10:00,159
and this kabbalistic text of the zohar

2933
02:10:05,109 --> 02:10:03,199
also refers to

2934
02:10:07,669 --> 02:10:05,119
uh knowledge

2935
02:10:09,750 --> 02:10:07,679
about the earth that shouldn't have been

2936
02:10:13,030 --> 02:10:09,760
known in that day you know it talks

2937
02:10:16,069 --> 02:10:13,040
about there being seven continents and

2938
02:10:18,950 --> 02:10:16,079
one of them's not populated and

2939
02:10:20,229 --> 02:10:18,960
and uh you know the the earth rolls like

2940
02:10:22,709 --> 02:10:20,239
a ball

2941
02:10:25,910 --> 02:10:22,719
and that uh you know for some people

2942
02:10:27,830 --> 02:10:25,920
it's daytime other people it's night

2943
02:10:30,310 --> 02:10:27,840
it talks about all these things in this

2944
02:10:32,870 --> 02:10:30,320
this text from the 1200s you know that

2945
02:10:35,750 --> 02:10:32,880
the the templars gave to the jewish

2946
02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:35,760
communities in in spain

2947
02:10:41,350 --> 02:10:38,639
uh in the zohar text but it was it was

2948
02:10:44,390 --> 02:10:41,360
passing on this knowledge from this

2949
02:10:46,470 --> 02:10:44,400
previous ancient civilization are you

2950
02:10:49,109 --> 02:10:46,480
suggesting that

2951
02:10:51,910 --> 02:10:49,119
the world flipped

2952
02:10:56,310 --> 02:10:51,920
right where east was west and west was

2953
02:10:57,990 --> 02:10:56,320
east and the sun is now rising

2954
02:11:00,390 --> 02:10:58,000
well the text doesn't say that but it

2955
02:11:03,510 --> 02:11:00,400
does it just suggests it it talks about

2956
02:11:05,669 --> 02:11:03,520
the planetary mechanics

2957
02:11:07,030 --> 02:11:05,679
you know that that it rolls around like

2958
02:11:08,069 --> 02:11:07,040
a ball

2959
02:11:10,390 --> 02:11:08,079
um

2960
02:11:11,589 --> 02:11:10,400
through space and that it goes around

2961
02:11:12,629 --> 02:11:11,599
the sun

2962
02:11:19,350 --> 02:11:12,639
and that

2963
02:11:21,589 --> 02:11:19,360
that shouldn't have been known

2964
02:11:24,709 --> 02:11:21,599
back in the 1200s

2965
02:11:26,229 --> 02:11:24,719
and yet here it is in this text and it's

2966
02:11:28,629 --> 02:11:26,239
clearly because

2967
02:11:32,069 --> 02:11:28,639
there was information being passed down

2968
02:11:35,030 --> 02:11:32,079
there were also maps that had been found

2969
02:11:37,750 --> 02:11:35,040
by the templars

2970
02:11:39,750 --> 02:11:37,760
in in their association with different

2971
02:11:42,149 --> 02:11:39,760
groups uh you know there were there were

2972
02:11:44,390 --> 02:11:42,159
celtic traditions that had been coming

2973
02:11:46,229 --> 02:11:44,400
over to the new world there were

2974
02:11:48,069 --> 02:11:46,239
vikings that had come over to the new

2975
02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:48,079
world there were

2976
02:11:53,189 --> 02:11:51,119
by some accounts there were even greeks

2977
02:11:55,830 --> 02:11:53,199
and romans that had come over the new

2978
02:11:57,589 --> 02:11:55,840
world as well as egyptians so in

2979
02:11:59,189 --> 02:11:57,599
sumerians so there were

2980
02:12:01,750 --> 02:11:59,199
phoenicians so there were all these

2981
02:12:05,189 --> 02:12:01,760
people that had been coming over to

2982
02:12:07,350 --> 02:12:05,199
the new world and they had records of

2983
02:12:11,270 --> 02:12:07,360
of what was over here and the templars

2984
02:12:12,390 --> 02:12:11,280
just collected all of this and

2985
02:12:14,629 --> 02:12:12,400
you know

2986
02:12:17,270 --> 02:12:14,639
we're basically like well let's go let's

2987
02:12:19,910 --> 02:12:17,280
go see if it's true and sure enough they

2988
02:12:23,030 --> 02:12:19,920
they found their way to the new world

2989
02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:25,030
where was atlantis

2990
02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:28,400
okay and and before you answer um i'm

2991
02:12:32,229 --> 02:12:30,400
actually pre-loading a conversation that

2992
02:12:38,149 --> 02:12:32,239
we had over the weekend but this is very

2993
02:12:42,149 --> 02:12:38,159
interesting to me um and and to that end

2994
02:12:45,589 --> 02:12:42,159
um are you of the knights templar today

2995
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:45,599
in possession of maps that show

2996
02:12:51,189 --> 02:12:48,960
where atlantis was

2997
02:12:54,149 --> 02:12:51,199
uh you know according to our our

2998
02:12:57,030 --> 02:12:54,159
traditions again atlantis was more of a

2999
02:12:59,589 --> 02:12:57,040
global network i mean it was

3000
02:13:02,950 --> 02:12:59,599
parts of it were in

3001
02:13:04,310 --> 02:13:02,960
north america parts of it were

3002
02:13:06,870 --> 02:13:04,320
uh

3003
02:13:10,229 --> 02:13:06,880
in the middle of the atlantic parts of

3004
02:13:13,350 --> 02:13:10,239
it were in antarctica

3005
02:13:15,830 --> 02:13:13,360
and parts of it were in europe uh it was

3006
02:13:17,750 --> 02:13:15,840
basically on all sides of the atlantic

3007
02:13:19,510 --> 02:13:17,760
there was this

3008
02:13:21,910 --> 02:13:19,520
this

3009
02:13:25,109 --> 02:13:21,920
uh civilization that was flourishing for

3010
02:13:27,109 --> 02:13:25,119
a while and then it collapsed

3011
02:13:30,149 --> 02:13:27,119
now that there are some

3012
02:13:35,270 --> 02:13:30,159
who have suggested that

3013
02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:37,589
a uh

3014
02:13:41,030 --> 02:13:40,000
a replica if you will

3015
02:13:45,750 --> 02:13:41,040
of a

3016
02:13:48,790 --> 02:13:45,760
even on this planet but that's a whole

3017
02:13:51,430 --> 02:13:48,800
nother conversation

3018
02:13:53,990 --> 02:13:51,440
but uh it's okay

3019
02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:54,000
excuse me

3020
02:13:57,109 --> 02:13:54,880
yeah

3021
02:13:58,550 --> 02:13:57,119
there was there was a

3022
02:14:00,870 --> 02:13:58,560
there was a

3023
02:14:02,229 --> 02:14:00,880
belief that what was set up in the

3024
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:02,239
ancient world

3025
02:14:07,030 --> 02:14:04,800
what we now call atlantis

3026
02:14:08,629 --> 02:14:07,040
was simply a

3027
02:14:11,109 --> 02:14:08,639
uh

3028
02:14:15,030 --> 02:14:11,119
a replica or a model

3029
02:14:18,950 --> 02:14:15,040
of a previous uh an already existing

3030
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:18,960
civilization that was on another world

3031
02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:21,040
and that the beings from that world came

3032
02:14:24,390 --> 02:14:23,360
down to this world

3033
02:14:26,149 --> 02:14:24,400
set up

3034
02:14:28,550 --> 02:14:26,159
the civilization with all of its

3035
02:14:29,430 --> 02:14:28,560
technology and everything else

3036
02:14:31,990 --> 02:14:29,440
uh

3037
02:14:34,149 --> 02:14:32,000
and then it kind of got out of control

3038
02:14:35,669 --> 02:14:34,159
there was a natural disaster gonna

3039
02:14:36,950 --> 02:14:35,679
happen and they just kind of let it

3040
02:14:38,470 --> 02:14:36,960
happen

3041
02:14:41,030 --> 02:14:38,480
because they didn't think we were quite

3042
02:14:43,350 --> 02:14:41,040
ready yet for for that

3043
02:14:45,830 --> 02:14:43,360
level of technology

3044
02:14:47,669 --> 02:14:45,840
and now we're at a point kind of where

3045
02:14:50,470 --> 02:14:47,679
we were at before

3046
02:14:54,790 --> 02:14:52,470
one of the templar missions we we

3047
02:14:57,189 --> 02:14:54,800
believe to this day

3048
02:15:00,390 --> 02:14:57,199
aside from getting these artifacts out

3049
02:15:02,709 --> 02:15:00,400
is to also

3050
02:15:04,709 --> 02:15:02,719
uh kind of prepare people to to bring

3051
02:15:07,990 --> 02:15:04,719
people together it's the hope that these

3052
02:15:10,149 --> 02:15:08,000
artifacts will bring people together

3053
02:15:13,109 --> 02:15:10,159
so that we can move on to our greater

3054
02:15:15,830 --> 02:15:13,119
destiny beyond this world

3055
02:15:19,270 --> 02:15:15,840
the the continent itself

3056
02:15:20,790 --> 02:15:19,280
um and i find this very interesting um

3057
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:20,800
about

3058
02:15:25,270 --> 02:15:22,960
the the possibility of something uh you

3059
02:15:26,709 --> 02:15:25,280
know outside of our star system uh

3060
02:15:29,270 --> 02:15:26,719
arriving here

3061
02:15:33,030 --> 02:15:29,280
um there's a lot of texts that support

3062
02:15:35,030 --> 02:15:33,040
that idea uh we can talk about sitchin

3063
02:15:38,870 --> 02:15:35,040
uh you know bringing this up but

3064
02:15:41,430 --> 02:15:38,880
atlantis itself as a continent as a

3065
02:15:43,950 --> 02:15:41,440
capital as a continent was that in the

3066
02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:43,960
middle of the atlantic

3067
02:15:49,109 --> 02:15:46,960
[Music]

3068
02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:49,119
our sources say it was actually in the

3069
02:15:53,990 --> 02:15:51,440
new world in

3070
02:15:55,830 --> 02:15:54,000
in what's now the united states area of

3071
02:15:58,069 --> 02:15:55,840
the united states

3072
02:15:59,350 --> 02:15:58,079
and in fact this is really the reason

3073
02:16:01,270 --> 02:15:59,360
why

3074
02:16:03,990 --> 02:16:01,280
later on

3075
02:16:06,709 --> 02:16:04,000
uh one of the templars of our tradition

3076
02:16:07,990 --> 02:16:06,719
was sir francis bacon

3077
02:16:10,149 --> 02:16:08,000
and you

3078
02:16:12,550 --> 02:16:10,159
may or may not know but he wrote a book

3079
02:16:15,270 --> 02:16:12,560
called the new atlantis

3080
02:16:16,870 --> 02:16:15,280
and he was describing this

3081
02:16:18,470 --> 02:16:16,880
civilization

3082
02:16:21,430 --> 02:16:18,480
that

3083
02:16:23,270 --> 02:16:21,440
knew the entire world but nobody knew of

3084
02:16:24,790 --> 02:16:23,280
its existence

3085
02:16:26,629 --> 02:16:24,800
and uh

3086
02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:26,639
and he and that they had all of these

3087
02:16:32,389 --> 02:16:28,560
different technologies and everything

3088
02:16:34,549 --> 02:16:32,399
else and he was actually alluding to

3089
02:16:37,990 --> 02:16:34,559
he was creating it was a metaphor for

3090
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:38,000
plans to set up the new atlantis

3091
02:16:42,709 --> 02:16:39,679
back in the new world to set up the

3092
02:16:48,389 --> 02:16:45,349
in the same area where atlantis had been

3093
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:48,399
previously so what did we do with um the

3094
02:16:54,230 --> 02:16:51,280
edfu building texts uh you know plato's

3095
02:16:57,589 --> 02:16:54,240
a description of atlantis um

3096
02:17:00,309 --> 02:16:57,599
it being a ringed island that

3097
02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:00,319
blew up and and fell into the ocean are

3098
02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:03,280
you saying that that's not the case that

3099
02:17:07,910 --> 02:17:06,479
uh north america itself was atlantis

3100
02:17:10,629 --> 02:17:07,920
well there were there was definitely

3101
02:17:13,830 --> 02:17:10,639
parts that sunk into the ocean but uh

3102
02:17:15,830 --> 02:17:13,840
yeah north america itself had uh said

3103
02:17:17,990 --> 02:17:15,840
civilizations here

3104
02:17:20,309 --> 02:17:18,000
that um

3105
02:17:22,790 --> 02:17:20,319
you know and i think that eventually the

3106
02:17:24,790 --> 02:17:22,800
archaeology will will prove this to be

3107
02:17:27,349 --> 02:17:24,800
the case i mean right now we're focusing

3108
02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:27,359
on places like goblecki tepe

3109
02:17:32,070 --> 02:17:30,160
and others but

3110
02:17:34,950 --> 02:17:32,080
that support

3111
02:17:37,429 --> 02:17:34,960
you know advanced ancient civilizations

3112
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:37,439
you know more in the area of turkey

3113
02:17:41,110 --> 02:17:39,040
but um

3114
02:17:44,230 --> 02:17:41,120
but i think that

3115
02:17:46,950 --> 02:17:44,240
well i'm quite certain that eventually

3116
02:17:49,589 --> 02:17:46,960
it's going to be revealed that uh

3117
02:17:50,950 --> 02:17:49,599
all of that and more was here in the new

3118
02:17:52,309 --> 02:17:50,960
world

3119
02:17:54,150 --> 02:17:52,319
what do we do

3120
02:17:55,669 --> 02:17:54,160
with i think this is one of the most

3121
02:17:57,429 --> 02:17:55,679
important questions

3122
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:57,439
that statement everything that we just

3123
02:18:02,790 --> 02:17:59,840
said is you know that those ripples are

3124
02:18:04,950 --> 02:18:02,800
going to go out uh uh into the community

3125
02:18:05,669 --> 02:18:04,960
over the next couple of weeks that you

3126
02:18:09,270 --> 02:18:05,679
know

3127
02:18:11,830 --> 02:18:09,280
america being being atlantis uh

3128
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:11,840
so uh let's let's let that simmer let's

3129
02:18:18,910 --> 02:18:14,240
put that on the back burner uh for a

3130
02:18:21,030 --> 02:18:18,920
minute but with so many uh uh different

3131
02:18:23,349 --> 02:18:21,040
trans-oceanic cultures

3132
02:18:26,469 --> 02:18:23,359
uh in the knights templar uh being one

3133
02:18:29,110 --> 02:18:26,479
of the main ones coming to north america

3134
02:18:32,070 --> 02:18:29,120
how does that change things about who we

3135
02:18:35,110 --> 02:18:32,080
are and is there a possibility of a

3136
02:18:35,990 --> 02:18:35,120
portugal or spain or sweden for that

3137
02:18:39,429 --> 02:18:36,000
matter

3138
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:39,439
uh to to have a land claim on the united

3139
02:18:42,790 --> 02:18:40,960
states

3140
02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:42,800
you know i think uh some of the early

3141
02:18:47,750 --> 02:18:45,040
founding fathers were actually worried

3142
02:18:50,150 --> 02:18:47,760
about that uh and the roman

3143
02:18:51,750 --> 02:18:50,160
church in spain was worried about that

3144
02:18:53,589 --> 02:18:51,760
in fact when they came over here and

3145
02:18:54,790 --> 02:18:53,599
they found

3146
02:18:56,389 --> 02:18:54,800
uh

3147
02:18:58,629 --> 02:18:56,399
blue-eyed

3148
02:19:00,790 --> 02:18:58,639
indians that were speaking in early form

3149
02:19:03,110 --> 02:19:00,800
of welsh they they proceeded to

3150
02:19:06,150 --> 02:19:03,120
eradicate them as as quickly as they

3151
02:19:07,750 --> 02:19:06,160
could because they didn't want to

3152
02:19:08,790 --> 02:19:07,760
you know they were worried that they

3153
02:19:11,030 --> 02:19:08,800
could

3154
02:19:14,070 --> 02:19:11,040
uh have more of a claim

3155
02:19:15,509 --> 02:19:14,080
on on the territory than than they could

3156
02:19:19,030 --> 02:19:15,519
so

3157
02:19:20,549 --> 02:19:19,040
history is full of that sadly um but

3158
02:19:22,230 --> 02:19:20,559
ultimately

3159
02:19:25,910 --> 02:19:22,240
you know you have to remember pretty

3160
02:19:28,629 --> 02:19:25,920
much everybody on planet earth today

3161
02:19:31,750 --> 02:19:28,639
uh is related to the same group of

3162
02:19:35,589 --> 02:19:31,760
people going back only 12 000 years

3163
02:19:38,389 --> 02:19:35,599
right humanity's been around for

3164
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:38,399
hundreds of thousands of years

3165
02:19:41,589 --> 02:19:39,840
so

3166
02:19:44,230 --> 02:19:41,599
you know to

3167
02:19:46,549 --> 02:19:44,240
for us to start getting wrapped up about

3168
02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:46,559
something that happened 10 000 years ago

3169
02:19:51,429 --> 02:19:49,040
in terms of who we are now

3170
02:19:54,469 --> 02:19:51,439
i mean it's a little silly i mean i look

3171
02:19:55,910 --> 02:19:54,479
at like these 23 and me genetic testing

3172
02:19:58,230 --> 02:19:55,920
for example

3173
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:58,240
they tell you who your relatives were

3174
02:20:01,510 --> 02:19:59,120
you know

3175
02:20:03,190 --> 02:20:01,520
maybe a few hundred years ago well you

3176
02:20:05,670 --> 02:20:03,200
know your relatives came from other

3177
02:20:09,030 --> 02:20:05,680
relatives that moved around a lot you

3178
02:20:10,790 --> 02:20:09,040
know from going back thousands of years

3179
02:20:13,590 --> 02:20:10,800
and uh

3180
02:20:16,389 --> 02:20:13,600
and and who who we really are you know

3181
02:20:18,469 --> 02:20:16,399
really transcends all that well

3182
02:20:20,710 --> 02:20:18,479
okay so to that end

3183
02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:20,720
um and it's kind of circling back to

3184
02:20:24,870 --> 02:20:23,680
where we were uh earlier

3185
02:20:27,110 --> 02:20:24,880
the

3186
02:20:29,510 --> 02:20:27,120
when you read holy blood holy grail and

3187
02:20:31,830 --> 02:20:29,520
certainly the da vinci code which is you

3188
02:20:34,230 --> 02:20:31,840
know a pop culture thing but there are

3189
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:34,240
there are ideas there that have been

3190
02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:37,680
pretty strong uh for a very long time

3191
02:20:41,510 --> 02:20:39,920
dan brown didn't just discover all of

3192
02:20:42,950 --> 02:20:41,520
this yeah but

3193
02:20:45,429 --> 02:20:42,960
to have

3194
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:45,439
uh the migration

3195
02:20:51,429 --> 02:20:49,600
of jesus and mary uh on boats arriving

3196
02:20:53,990 --> 02:20:51,439
in the south of france

3197
02:20:57,910 --> 02:20:54,000
and and moving into

3198
02:21:00,950 --> 02:20:57,920
uh southern europe and establishing

3199
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:00,960
the bloodline and continuing through

3200
02:21:06,150 --> 02:21:04,319
uh france and through europe

3201
02:21:07,349 --> 02:21:06,160
is this part of

3202
02:21:09,270 --> 02:21:07,359
uh

3203
02:21:11,990 --> 02:21:09,280
the knowledge base of the knights

3204
02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:12,000
templar or is that just pop culture or

3205
02:21:18,070 --> 02:21:14,800
folklore no there is something to that

3206
02:21:21,830 --> 02:21:18,080
uh but again the value of that bloodline

3207
02:21:22,790 --> 02:21:21,840
is not as much the bloodline as as it is

3208
02:21:27,270 --> 02:21:22,800
the

3209
02:21:29,030 --> 02:21:27,280
by that bloodline

3210
02:21:31,750 --> 02:21:29,040
they were preserving

3211
02:21:33,590 --> 02:21:31,760
um ideas in

3212
02:21:35,349 --> 02:21:33,600
you know certain ideas and knowledge

3213
02:21:37,349 --> 02:21:35,359
that were contrary to the power

3214
02:21:40,150 --> 02:21:37,359
structures of the day

3215
02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:40,160
and that they continued to preserve that

3216
02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:41,840
knowledge i mean

3217
02:21:45,429 --> 02:21:44,560
for example in my own case

3218
02:21:49,910 --> 02:21:45,439
my

3219
02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:49,920
uh

3220
02:21:56,630 --> 02:21:52,240
general joseph warren from seven

3221
02:21:58,790 --> 02:21:56,640
generations back he was um

3222
02:22:00,550 --> 02:21:58,800
you know he was an alchemist

3223
02:22:03,429 --> 02:22:00,560
prior to being uh

3224
02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:03,439
prior to being a revolutionary he was a

3225
02:22:07,429 --> 02:22:05,280
physician and he was an alchemist in

3226
02:22:10,630 --> 02:22:07,439
fact that's why he was even studying

3227
02:22:12,150 --> 02:22:10,640
with paul revere who was a silversmith

3228
02:22:13,270 --> 02:22:12,160
because they were studying alchemy

3229
02:22:15,590 --> 02:22:13,280
together

3230
02:22:17,670 --> 02:22:15,600
and they were they were they were

3231
02:22:20,710 --> 02:22:17,680
preserving this

3232
02:22:22,389 --> 02:22:20,720
knowledge that had been passed down

3233
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:22,399
uh and

3234
02:22:25,750 --> 02:22:23,840
when i

3235
02:22:27,750 --> 02:22:25,760
first started looking into some of this

3236
02:22:31,590 --> 02:22:27,760
stuff i i

3237
02:22:33,190 --> 02:22:31,600
went to my grandfather hugh warren

3238
02:22:36,550 --> 02:22:33,200
who was a

3239
02:22:38,550 --> 02:22:36,560
metallurgist at denver university so and

3240
02:22:39,990 --> 02:22:38,560
he's the one who taught started teaching

3241
02:22:41,110 --> 02:22:40,000
me alchemy

3242
02:22:44,150 --> 02:22:41,120
so

3243
02:22:45,910 --> 02:22:44,160
that's an example of this knowledge

3244
02:22:48,230 --> 02:22:45,920
being passed down

3245
02:22:49,990 --> 02:22:48,240
within family lines

3246
02:22:52,389 --> 02:22:50,000
and that's where the value of the

3247
02:22:55,830 --> 02:22:52,399
bloodline is i mean it has less to do

3248
02:22:59,190 --> 02:22:55,840
it's not like the blood has some

3249
02:23:00,790 --> 02:22:59,200
special magical properties to it

3250
02:23:03,030 --> 02:23:00,800
it has to do with

3251
02:23:04,630 --> 02:23:03,040
the knowledge that's being passed down

3252
02:23:09,110 --> 02:23:04,640
through that

3253
02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:09,120
the um

3254
02:23:13,990 --> 02:23:12,240
the other part to this if if all of this

3255
02:23:17,429 --> 02:23:14,000
is true

3256
02:23:20,309 --> 02:23:17,439
um where you have billions of christians

3257
02:23:22,150 --> 02:23:20,319
and and catholics on this planet uh a

3258
02:23:23,830 --> 02:23:22,160
huge control

3259
02:23:26,150 --> 02:23:23,840
um and uh

3260
02:23:28,550 --> 02:23:26,160
there would be a power vacuum i would i

3261
02:23:30,630 --> 02:23:28,560
would suggest that if this is

3262
02:23:33,590 --> 02:23:30,640
established as fact

3263
02:23:35,110 --> 02:23:33,600
then uh for three and a half billion

3264
02:23:38,389 --> 02:23:35,120
people on this planet they've been

3265
02:23:41,590 --> 02:23:38,399
living or taught a lie

3266
02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:41,600
well they've been taught uh a half truth

3267
02:23:45,910 --> 02:23:42,960
yeah there's a great there's a great

3268
02:23:47,270 --> 02:23:45,920
quote by louis claude de semaitan who

3269
02:23:50,230 --> 02:23:47,280
was a

3270
02:23:52,950 --> 02:23:50,240
french philosopher in the 1700s and he

3271
02:23:54,469 --> 02:23:52,960
said the great misfortune of man is not

3272
02:23:55,990 --> 02:23:54,479
that he's unaware

3273
02:23:59,270 --> 02:23:56,000
of truth

3274
02:24:02,389 --> 02:23:59,280
but that he misconstrues its nature

3275
02:24:05,349 --> 02:24:02,399
and that's what we're talking about like

3276
02:24:07,590 --> 02:24:05,359
people are aware of a story

3277
02:24:10,550 --> 02:24:07,600
they're aware of a

3278
02:24:14,950 --> 02:24:10,560
um a tradition there just might be

3279
02:24:14,960 --> 02:24:18,150
that's

3280
02:24:18,160 --> 02:24:23,429
ed uh i'm so glad i burned the sage

3281
02:24:27,510 --> 02:24:25,270
because if i'm wrong

3282
02:24:30,790 --> 02:24:27,520
but uh if you're wrong

3283
02:24:33,830 --> 02:24:30,800
um but here's the thing though

3284
02:24:37,510 --> 02:24:33,840
if if this is indeed the case and we are

3285
02:24:39,750 --> 02:24:37,520
sitting on um alchemical traditions that

3286
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:39,760
go back thousands of years

3287
02:24:45,670 --> 02:24:41,760
um

3288
02:24:47,590 --> 02:24:45,680
uh support the technology behind the ark

3289
02:24:50,469 --> 02:24:47,600
and the creation of mana

3290
02:24:53,510 --> 02:24:50,479
and the alchemical traditions that went

3291
02:24:56,230 --> 02:24:53,520
through egypt and i said it earlier um

3292
02:24:58,870 --> 02:24:56,240
into greece where you have not only

3293
02:25:01,190 --> 02:24:58,880
philosophy and and the hard sciences

3294
02:25:02,389 --> 02:25:01,200
that were coming in but the alchemical

3295
02:25:06,150 --> 02:25:02,399
traditions

3296
02:25:08,230 --> 02:25:06,160
that were the third prong in all of this

3297
02:25:10,630 --> 02:25:08,240
because if you go back to isaac newton

3298
02:25:11,429 --> 02:25:10,640
and and and the the great scientists

3299
02:25:13,670 --> 02:25:11,439
back

3300
02:25:16,150 --> 02:25:13,680
they looked at three different things

3301
02:25:17,590 --> 02:25:16,160
and and you can even add religion

3302
02:25:21,110 --> 02:25:17,600
as a fourth

3303
02:25:25,590 --> 02:25:21,120
but all of this was eliminated and lost

3304
02:25:27,030 --> 02:25:25,600
um and and and were uh stored with the

3305
02:25:28,870 --> 02:25:27,040
knights templar

3306
02:25:31,910 --> 02:25:28,880
right this is this is something that

3307
02:25:34,150 --> 02:25:31,920
would truly rewrite history tim

3308
02:25:36,469 --> 02:25:34,160
yeah and it in it you know

3309
02:25:37,920 --> 02:25:36,479
we also have to look at realize that

3310
02:25:39,110 --> 02:25:37,930
much of the bible is written

3311
02:25:41,349 --> 02:25:39,120
[Music]

3312
02:25:43,510 --> 02:25:41,359
in terms of metaphor it was it was an

3313
02:25:45,030 --> 02:25:43,520
initiation document i mean let me give

3314
02:25:46,230 --> 02:25:45,040
you an example

3315
02:25:49,990 --> 02:25:46,240
about

3316
02:25:50,870 --> 02:25:50,000
related to alchemy in the new testament

3317
02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:50,880
so

3318
02:25:55,270 --> 02:25:53,359
the superconductive substance that that

3319
02:25:56,389 --> 02:25:55,280
i was talking about that was put in the

3320
02:25:59,510 --> 02:25:56,399
ark

3321
02:26:01,910 --> 02:25:59,520
uh it was also in in

3322
02:26:05,510 --> 02:26:01,920
in uh biblical texts it was referred to

3323
02:26:08,389 --> 02:26:05,520
as mana it was also referred to as bread

3324
02:26:11,910 --> 02:26:08,399
it was also referred to as salt

3325
02:26:15,030 --> 02:26:11,920
it was also referred to as white stone

3326
02:26:16,550 --> 02:26:15,040
these were is referred to as shrew bread

3327
02:26:18,150 --> 02:26:16,560
you know it was referred to all of these

3328
02:26:18,830 --> 02:26:18,160
different things

3329
02:26:23,990 --> 02:26:18,840
and

3330
02:26:26,150 --> 02:26:24,000
referred to as salt for example is

3331
02:26:29,270 --> 02:26:26,160
because you could actually extract it

3332
02:26:32,630 --> 02:26:29,280
out of salt or out of sea water

3333
02:26:35,590 --> 02:26:32,640
so in the story of jesus we have jesus

3334
02:26:39,510 --> 02:26:35,600
born from mary

3335
02:26:41,910 --> 02:26:39,520
maria maria in greek actually means salt

3336
02:26:44,950 --> 02:26:41,920
water or sea

3337
02:26:49,030 --> 02:26:44,960
so what happens when you heat salt water

3338
02:26:51,670 --> 02:26:49,040
well salt cubes miraculously get born

3339
02:26:53,910 --> 02:26:51,680
from it right i mean it's literally like

3340
02:26:54,950 --> 02:26:53,920
a divine

3341
02:26:57,110 --> 02:26:54,960
birth

3342
02:26:59,830 --> 02:26:57,120
right because because you get these salt

3343
02:27:02,469 --> 02:26:59,840
cubes that get these salt cubes that

3344
02:27:05,349 --> 02:27:02,479
come out of the salt water just like

3345
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:05,359
jesus being born from mary and where is

3346
02:27:10,309 --> 02:27:08,080
jesus born he's born in bethlehem well

3347
02:27:12,630 --> 02:27:10,319
what does bethlehem mean

3348
02:27:13,670 --> 02:27:12,640
it means house of bread it comes from

3349
02:27:15,670 --> 02:27:13,680
beth

3350
02:27:17,429 --> 02:27:15,680
which means house and

3351
02:27:20,630 --> 02:27:17,439
which means bread

3352
02:27:23,910 --> 02:27:20,640
so you so you have jesus being

3353
02:27:25,190 --> 02:27:23,920
born from mary in bethlehem

3354
02:27:28,469 --> 02:27:25,200
and

3355
02:27:31,030 --> 02:27:28,479
this is it's it's a it's literally

3356
02:27:34,150 --> 02:27:31,040
alluding to the this whole alchemical

3357
02:27:35,990 --> 02:27:34,160
process of how to extract

3358
02:27:39,910 --> 02:27:36,000
this mana

3359
02:27:41,270 --> 02:27:39,920
from the salt itself

3360
02:27:44,469 --> 02:27:41,280
the same

3361
02:27:47,110 --> 02:27:44,479
these same illusions are found in

3362
02:27:48,710 --> 02:27:47,120
the story of moses witnessing god as a

3363
02:27:50,870 --> 02:27:48,720
burning bush

3364
02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:50,880
well the other place that you can

3365
02:27:56,830 --> 02:27:54,000
extract this mana is out of the ashes of

3366
02:27:59,270 --> 02:27:56,840
burnt down vegetable matter

3367
02:28:01,429 --> 02:27:59,280
so um

3368
02:28:04,070 --> 02:28:01,439
you know so it makes sense that god was

3369
02:28:07,190 --> 02:28:04,080
a burning bush if you were trying to do

3370
02:28:10,469 --> 02:28:07,200
that alchemical operation so

3371
02:28:12,070 --> 02:28:10,479
it's it's all there in the bible and and

3372
02:28:13,990 --> 02:28:12,080
you know i could give you a hundred

3373
02:28:16,309 --> 02:28:14,000
other examples of it

3374
02:28:18,230 --> 02:28:16,319
but the point is that

3375
02:28:21,590 --> 02:28:18,240
the bible was written with these

3376
02:28:22,469 --> 02:28:21,600
metaphors these alchemical ideas

3377
02:28:24,150 --> 02:28:22,479
uh

3378
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:24,160
in it and

3379
02:28:29,110 --> 02:28:26,880
the discoveries that the templars found

3380
02:28:29,910 --> 02:28:29,120
just substantiated

3381
02:28:31,429 --> 02:28:29,920
uh

3382
02:28:34,230 --> 02:28:31,439
these ideas

3383
02:28:36,710 --> 02:28:34,240
which are not normally taught

3384
02:28:39,349 --> 02:28:36,720
before we go to the break uh and come

3385
02:28:41,590 --> 02:28:39,359
back we just have uh uh 20 minutes left

3386
02:28:42,550 --> 02:28:41,600
and i've got a bunch of stuff i want to

3387
02:28:44,230 --> 02:28:42,560
get in

3388
02:28:46,469 --> 02:28:44,240
i mean i want to talk about where the

3389
02:28:49,750 --> 02:28:46,479
knights templar are today

3390
02:28:51,750 --> 02:28:49,760
and and the traditions of of today and

3391
02:28:53,270 --> 02:28:51,760
how they relate to the past and i want

3392
02:28:56,950 --> 02:28:53,280
to get to all of that

3393
02:28:58,630 --> 02:28:56,960
uh but before i do the knowledge of

3394
02:28:59,510 --> 02:28:58,640
of mana

3395
02:29:03,990 --> 02:28:59,520
and

3396
02:29:07,030 --> 02:29:04,000
uh the ability to create this uh

3397
02:29:09,110 --> 02:29:07,040
as the power source for the arc

3398
02:29:11,429 --> 02:29:09,120
where did that knowledge come from are

3399
02:29:13,830 --> 02:29:11,439
you suggesting that came from atlantis

3400
02:29:16,950 --> 02:29:13,840
yeah that would be my suggestion yeah

3401
02:29:20,870 --> 02:29:16,960
originally came from atlantis it uh

3402
02:29:22,870 --> 02:29:20,880
was reposited in uh egypt in other

3403
02:29:24,230 --> 02:29:22,880
places after the

3404
02:29:27,670 --> 02:29:24,240
atlantis

3405
02:29:30,150 --> 02:29:27,680
sank after it after the great cataclysm

3406
02:29:31,750 --> 02:29:30,160
uh it was preserved for a time in places

3407
02:29:33,990 --> 02:29:31,760
like egypt

3408
02:29:36,389 --> 02:29:34,000
and uh

3409
02:29:38,309 --> 02:29:36,399
yeah and and and in jerusalem

3410
02:29:41,429 --> 02:29:38,319
and and uh

3411
02:29:43,910 --> 02:29:41,439
you know in some other areas and uh the

3412
02:29:45,830 --> 02:29:43,920
templars just found all this

3413
02:29:48,830 --> 02:29:45,840
and the egyptians had it

3414
02:29:51,270 --> 02:29:48,840
um outlined on their temple walls

3415
02:29:53,590 --> 02:29:51,280
so you know when the templars went down

3416
02:29:55,910 --> 02:29:53,600
to filet for example where they set up

3417
02:29:57,510 --> 02:29:55,920
their commandery at the temple of isis

3418
02:29:58,950 --> 02:29:57,520
and phile

3419
02:30:00,469 --> 02:29:58,960
they uh

3420
02:30:02,710 --> 02:30:00,479
you know they started finding these

3421
02:30:05,750 --> 02:30:02,720
things and we're like oh okay this is

3422
02:30:08,070 --> 02:30:05,760
how the ark works this is what the

3423
02:30:10,630 --> 02:30:08,080
the mana bread is we can clearly see it

3424
02:30:14,710 --> 02:30:10,640
being fed here to the pharaoh

3425
02:30:17,110 --> 02:30:14,720
uh in fact anytime you see the ark

3426
02:30:21,030 --> 02:30:17,120
depicted on these egyptian temple walls

3427
02:30:22,950 --> 02:30:21,040
you usually see these these cone shaped

3428
02:30:25,910 --> 02:30:22,960
uh cakes

3429
02:30:28,469 --> 02:30:25,920
these bread cakes that are used right in

3430
02:30:30,630 --> 02:30:28,479
their hands yeah exactly

3431
02:30:32,469 --> 02:30:30,640
yep and so this is the mana yes but

3432
02:30:34,790 --> 02:30:32,479
they're always shown together and it's

3433
02:30:37,030 --> 02:30:34,800
because they go together

3434
02:30:38,550 --> 02:30:37,040
akhenaten just winked at me i'm just

3435
02:30:41,030 --> 02:30:38,560
gonna let you know

3436
02:30:43,030 --> 02:30:41,040
in the replay uh we're going to take a

3437
02:30:46,630 --> 02:30:43,040
quick break we're going to come back and

3438
02:30:48,550 --> 02:30:46,640
get into overtime and wrap this up and

3439
02:30:50,469 --> 02:30:48,560
one of the things

3440
02:30:52,150 --> 02:30:50,479
i'm going to ask him about i wanted to

3441
02:30:54,230 --> 02:30:52,160
say this for over time

3442
02:30:55,910 --> 02:30:54,240
is the tablets the 10 commandments where

3443
02:30:57,429 --> 02:30:55,920
are they tim don't say anything don't

3444
02:30:59,830 --> 02:30:57,439
say anything we're going to do that when

3445
02:31:01,429 --> 02:30:59,840
we come back after this short break this

3446
02:31:04,150 --> 02:31:01,439
is fade to black our guest tonight tim

3447
02:31:05,429 --> 02:31:04,160
hogan worldwide grand master of the

3448
02:31:07,510 --> 02:31:05,439
knights templar what a great

3449
02:31:09,349 --> 02:31:07,520
conversation we'll be right back for

3450
02:31:13,320 --> 02:31:09,359
more right after this short break stay

3451
02:31:28,710 --> 02:31:26,150
[Music]

3452
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um

3453
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3455
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you're listening to jimmy church and

3456
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fade to black

3457
02:31:58,070 --> 02:31:55,270
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

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02:36:38,630 --> 02:36:36,550
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02:36:40,309 --> 02:36:38,640
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3556
02:36:41,750 --> 02:36:40,319
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3557
02:36:43,910 --> 02:36:41,760
done

3558
02:36:45,590 --> 02:36:43,920
timmy the ogan

3559
02:36:49,190 --> 02:36:45,600
worldwide grand master the knights

3560
02:36:52,070 --> 02:36:49,200
templar is here with us tonight and uh

3561
02:36:54,150 --> 02:36:52,080
just let me say uh thank you tim on

3562
02:36:57,270 --> 02:36:54,160
behalf of the community um

3563
02:36:59,670 --> 02:36:57,280
uh coming in tonight uh uh with

3564
02:37:02,950 --> 02:36:59,680
you you letting me know in a bit don't

3565
02:37:06,550 --> 02:37:02,960
hold back church just just let's go

3566
02:37:09,349 --> 02:37:06,560
and um and and i feel like i've i've got

3567
02:37:11,910 --> 02:37:09,359
50 questions that i didn't get to and

3568
02:37:14,630 --> 02:37:11,920
and we will do future shows let's do you

3569
02:37:17,349 --> 02:37:14,640
know a show on alchemy let's do a you

3570
02:37:20,150 --> 02:37:17,359
know a show on an artifact so we'll

3571
02:37:21,590 --> 02:37:20,160
we'll stay uh i i also want to focus on

3572
02:37:23,910 --> 02:37:21,600
traditions

3573
02:37:27,910 --> 02:37:23,920
and uh now i've got a couple of things

3574
02:37:29,590 --> 02:37:27,920
that uh i held back uh for overtime and

3575
02:37:31,830 --> 02:37:29,600
over time i like to loosen up a little

3576
02:37:34,550 --> 02:37:31,840
bit these are very serious subjects

3577
02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:34,560
tonight uh but i like to loosen up a

3578
02:37:38,950 --> 02:37:37,520
little bit when we do get to overtime um

3579
02:37:40,469 --> 02:37:38,960
and

3580
02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:40,479
but i do want to talk about the ten

3581
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:42,160
commandments

3582
02:37:46,389 --> 02:37:44,560
and and where are they

3583
02:37:49,030 --> 02:37:46,399
are you in possession of them the the

3584
02:37:51,429 --> 02:37:49,040
tablets that were allegedly

3585
02:37:53,750 --> 02:37:51,439
i shouldn't say that i burn the incense

3586
02:37:54,630 --> 02:37:53,760
i think i'm in the clear

3587
02:38:02,630 --> 02:37:54,640
uh

3588
02:38:03,590 --> 02:38:02,640
well so

3589
02:38:06,870 --> 02:38:03,600
if

3590
02:38:08,150 --> 02:38:06,880
you go back and read your bible it talks

3591
02:38:11,590 --> 02:38:08,160
about how

3592
02:38:13,190 --> 02:38:11,600
moses when he came down from the

3593
02:38:15,750 --> 02:38:13,200
uh

3594
02:38:17,190 --> 02:38:15,760
from the mountain he had

3595
02:38:19,510 --> 02:38:17,200
uh

3596
02:38:21,750 --> 02:38:19,520
an initial set of tablets known as the

3597
02:38:23,670 --> 02:38:21,760
tablet of testimony

3598
02:38:26,070 --> 02:38:23,680
and he decided that they weren't ready

3599
02:38:28,790 --> 02:38:26,080
for this yet so he broke it

3600
02:38:31,030 --> 02:38:28,800
and he didn't give it to the to them but

3601
02:38:33,910 --> 02:38:31,040
then he also had another set of tablets

3602
02:38:36,070 --> 02:38:33,920
which uh were had the the commandments

3603
02:38:37,270 --> 02:38:36,080
on them and he did give that to the

3604
02:38:38,469 --> 02:38:37,280
people

3605
02:38:41,270 --> 02:38:38,479
um

3606
02:38:43,830 --> 02:38:41,280
according to our

3607
02:38:46,630 --> 02:38:43,840
records there are

3608
02:38:49,110 --> 02:38:46,640
some different tablets

3609
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:49,120
that are in the vaults

3610
02:38:57,429 --> 02:38:55,510
could be associated with the

3611
02:38:59,110 --> 02:38:57,439
ten commandments it's written in

3612
02:39:01,110 --> 02:38:59,120
phoenician

3613
02:39:03,830 --> 02:39:01,120
and uh

3614
02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:03,840
it seems to be the the ten commandments

3615
02:39:06,950 --> 02:39:04,960
the other

3616
02:39:09,349 --> 02:39:06,960
tablet which is referred to as the

3617
02:39:11,750 --> 02:39:09,359
tablet of testimony

3618
02:39:13,429 --> 02:39:11,760
is actually

3619
02:39:21,670 --> 02:39:13,439
the

3620
02:39:24,389 --> 02:39:21,680
tablet of hermes

3621
02:39:27,270 --> 02:39:24,399
and that this tablet this other tablet

3622
02:39:29,670 --> 02:39:27,280
the tablet of testimony um part of the

3623
02:39:31,590 --> 02:39:29,680
reason why it was broken

3624
02:39:34,950 --> 02:39:31,600
uh was because it was made of a

3625
02:39:38,309 --> 02:39:34,960
substance that looks like emeralds but

3626
02:39:41,670 --> 02:39:38,319
it's not actually emeralds and when you

3627
02:39:43,670 --> 02:39:41,680
it's it's actually like a copper acetate

3628
02:39:46,150 --> 02:39:43,680
and when you

3629
02:39:48,790 --> 02:39:46,160
if you break it down and you heat it you

3630
02:39:49,750 --> 02:39:48,800
can actually extract

3631
02:39:52,469 --> 02:39:49,760
uh

3632
02:39:54,070 --> 02:39:52,479
this mono essence out of it

3633
02:40:01,270 --> 02:39:54,080
so it was

3634
02:40:02,710 --> 02:40:01,280
that all that alchemical process

3635
02:40:04,830 --> 02:40:02,720
but

3636
02:40:08,950 --> 02:40:04,840
there's a possibility

3637
02:40:11,510 --> 02:40:08,960
that the ten commandments that stone

3638
02:40:13,750 --> 02:40:11,520
are in a vault and in the possession of

3639
02:40:15,670 --> 02:40:13,760
the knights templar yeah at least it's

3640
02:40:17,270 --> 02:40:15,680
something that looks like them you know

3641
02:40:20,150 --> 02:40:17,280
i don't know if they're the original

3642
02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:20,160
ones or not but phoenician and that

3643
02:40:23,990 --> 02:40:21,760
that's interesting

3644
02:40:25,110 --> 02:40:24,000
who can read phoenician today scott

3645
02:40:27,670 --> 02:40:25,120
walter

3646
02:40:28,630 --> 02:40:27,680
probably i can but it's like you know

3647
02:40:31,750 --> 02:40:28,640
it's

3648
02:40:34,070 --> 02:40:31,760
basically the

3649
02:40:36,070 --> 02:40:34,080
when the bible refers to the canaanites

3650
02:40:37,830 --> 02:40:36,080
the canaanites were actually the

3651
02:40:40,309 --> 02:40:37,840
phoenicians

3652
02:40:42,309 --> 02:40:40,319
and uh and you can actually see an

3653
02:40:44,230 --> 02:40:42,319
evolution this is kind of getting a

3654
02:40:45,510 --> 02:40:44,240
little off topic but it's something i

3655
02:40:48,790 --> 02:40:45,520
geek out on

3656
02:40:51,429 --> 02:40:48,800
if if you look at egyptian hieroglyphs

3657
02:40:53,349 --> 02:40:51,439
you can see how the egyptian hieroglyphs

3658
02:40:54,950 --> 02:40:53,359
the letters for the different

3659
02:40:58,309 --> 02:40:54,960
hieroglyphs

3660
02:41:02,070 --> 02:40:58,319
evolved into the phoenician language

3661
02:41:02,080 --> 02:41:05,750
oh we just lost timothy

3662
02:41:12,070 --> 02:41:08,309
the vatican stepped in

3663
02:41:15,110 --> 02:41:14,309
oh

3664
02:41:22,950 --> 02:41:15,120
uh

3665
02:41:24,150 --> 02:41:22,960
oh okay you're back you're back

3666
02:41:26,070 --> 02:41:24,160
yeah i don't know what happened there we

3667
02:41:29,830 --> 02:41:26,080
got kicked off for a second yeah the

3668
02:41:31,270 --> 02:41:29,840
pope stepped in enough is enough that's

3669
02:41:32,150 --> 02:41:31,280
enough is enough

3670
02:41:34,070 --> 02:41:32,160
um

3671
02:41:36,950 --> 02:41:34,080
so uh

3672
02:41:40,150 --> 02:41:36,960
uh okay so the phoenician language the

3673
02:41:42,309 --> 02:41:40,160
canaanites that's where you got cut off

3674
02:41:44,230 --> 02:41:42,319
yeah so so that then the so that you can

3675
02:41:46,389 --> 02:41:44,240
see how that phoenician language then

3676
02:41:48,710 --> 02:41:46,399
evolved into hebrew so you can see how

3677
02:41:52,630 --> 02:41:48,720
it went from egyptian hieroglyph to

3678
02:41:54,230 --> 02:41:52,640
phoenician characters to hebrew

3679
02:41:56,710 --> 02:41:54,240
i mean you can clearly see that

3680
02:41:58,870 --> 02:41:56,720
progression and

3681
02:42:00,710 --> 02:41:58,880
if i i would encourage anyone who's

3682
02:42:02,389 --> 02:42:00,720
who's interested in looking more into

3683
02:42:06,790 --> 02:42:02,399
the phoenicians

3684
02:42:09,990 --> 02:42:06,800
and particularly the connection between

3685
02:42:11,190 --> 02:42:10,000
the phoenician stuff and jesus to check

3686
02:42:14,070 --> 02:42:11,200
out the book

3687
02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:14,080
jesus the phoenician by kareem alcusa

3688
02:42:17,510 --> 02:42:15,840
who's

3689
02:42:19,349 --> 02:42:17,520
a you know a dear friend of mine who

3690
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:19,359
wrote the foreword

3691
02:42:23,910 --> 02:42:21,520
for

3692
02:42:26,469 --> 02:42:23,920
one of his books and uh

3693
02:42:28,469 --> 02:42:26,479
anyhow he has he has really good stuff

3694
02:42:29,990 --> 02:42:28,479
okay

3695
02:42:32,389 --> 02:42:30,000
the hook decks

3696
02:42:34,870 --> 02:42:32,399
yeah okay scott walter just leaned

3697
02:42:38,830 --> 02:42:34,880
forward

3698
02:42:40,389 --> 02:42:38,840
um the hook tax templar

3699
02:42:42,070 --> 02:42:40,399
yes

3700
02:42:44,950 --> 02:42:42,080
yeah that's definitely a symbol that we

3701
02:42:47,910 --> 02:42:44,960
use the hook dex for sure in fact i i

3702
02:42:50,070 --> 02:42:47,920
use it in my signature to this day

3703
02:42:53,429 --> 02:42:50,080
as grandmaster that's one of the things

3704
02:42:56,070 --> 02:42:53,439
i i have in my signature that i use

3705
02:43:02,870 --> 02:42:56,080
did you do that before you met scott

3706
02:43:05,590 --> 02:43:03,990
if i

3707
02:43:06,710 --> 02:43:05,600
today

3708
02:43:08,950 --> 02:43:06,720
uh

3709
02:43:09,750 --> 02:43:08,960
what what would it take for me

3710
02:43:12,150 --> 02:43:09,760
uh

3711
02:43:14,389 --> 02:43:12,160
to join the knights templar

3712
02:43:17,349 --> 02:43:14,399
so uh you know there are several

3713
02:43:20,070 --> 02:43:17,359
different templar lineages out there so

3714
02:43:23,349 --> 02:43:20,080
when the templars were suppressed

3715
02:43:25,750 --> 02:43:23,359
in 1307 they had to go underground and

3716
02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:29,990
some of them went to scotland and

3717
02:43:34,150 --> 02:43:32,080
became uh

3718
02:43:37,270 --> 02:43:34,160
really the order of the thistle and the

3719
02:43:39,349 --> 02:43:37,280
royal order of scotland

3720
02:43:42,150 --> 02:43:39,359
the order of saint andrews up in

3721
02:43:45,349 --> 02:43:42,160
scotland under robert the bruce

3722
02:43:47,670 --> 02:43:45,359
some of them went to portugal and just

3723
02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:47,680
re-named themselves the knights of

3724
02:43:51,269 --> 02:43:48,960
christ

3725
02:43:51,990 --> 02:43:51,279
and existed that way some of them went

3726
02:43:57,349 --> 02:43:52,000
to

3727
02:43:59,349 --> 02:43:57,359
already built

3728
02:44:01,349 --> 02:43:59,359
you know a thousand different gothic

3729
02:44:02,950 --> 02:44:01,359
structures and all these cathedrals

3730
02:44:06,870 --> 02:44:02,960
during their

3731
02:44:10,150 --> 02:44:06,880
uh you know the 200 years between uh

3732
02:44:11,910 --> 02:44:10,160
you know 11 18 and and uh

3733
02:44:13,670 --> 02:44:11,920
1307

3734
02:44:16,309 --> 02:44:13,680
so they just became

3735
02:44:19,269 --> 02:44:16,319
stone mason guilds which eventually

3736
02:44:22,389 --> 02:44:19,279
developed into freemasonry

3737
02:44:24,870 --> 02:44:22,399
so freemasonry became this

3738
02:44:27,110 --> 02:44:24,880
some of them became went to germany and

3739
02:44:29,830 --> 02:44:27,120
and formed a group known as the militia

3740
02:44:32,389 --> 02:44:29,840
crucifera evangelica

3741
02:44:33,750 --> 02:44:32,399
which eventually became the rosicrucian

3742
02:44:35,429 --> 02:44:33,760
movement

3743
02:44:38,389 --> 02:44:35,439
out of germany

3744
02:44:40,870 --> 02:44:38,399
um and then there were others that just

3745
02:44:43,830 --> 02:44:40,880
kept calling themselves templar

3746
02:44:45,510 --> 02:44:43,840
and just went to places like uh

3747
02:44:48,630 --> 02:44:45,520
you know in the middle east where they

3748
02:44:52,630 --> 02:44:48,640
could they could continue to exist

3749
02:44:58,309 --> 02:44:56,230
you know an admiralty uh naval fleet

3750
02:44:59,990 --> 02:44:58,319
and just lived on the seas they created

3751
02:45:02,230 --> 02:45:00,000
their own nation i mean they really

3752
02:45:04,790 --> 02:45:02,240
became the first pirates

3753
02:45:06,630 --> 02:45:04,800
attacking back at the countries that had

3754
02:45:08,349 --> 02:45:06,640
attacked them so

3755
02:45:12,950 --> 02:45:08,359
so there were all these different

3756
02:45:15,990 --> 02:45:12,960
lineages of templarism that survived

3757
02:45:18,309 --> 02:45:16,000
eventually with time they they began to

3758
02:45:20,550 --> 02:45:18,319
start to work together again

3759
02:45:22,870 --> 02:45:20,560
and do different things together again

3760
02:45:25,190 --> 02:45:22,880
and so now what we do for anyone who's

3761
02:45:27,110 --> 02:45:25,200
interested in

3762
02:45:28,950 --> 02:45:27,120
pursuing this path they could certainly

3763
02:45:30,710 --> 02:45:28,960
go to any one of these different

3764
02:45:32,790 --> 02:45:30,720
traditions i mean they could go become a

3765
02:45:35,429 --> 02:45:32,800
freemason or a

3766
02:45:37,190 --> 02:45:35,439
or a rosicrucian or

3767
02:45:38,870 --> 02:45:37,200
or you know any any of these other

3768
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:38,880
bodies

3769
02:45:43,269 --> 02:45:40,720
one of the ways

3770
02:45:47,269 --> 02:45:43,279
to move forward is we also set up a

3771
02:45:48,870 --> 02:45:47,279
school known as the templar collegia

3772
02:45:50,790 --> 02:45:48,880
which is

3773
02:46:10,550 --> 02:45:50,800
a

3774
02:46:12,710 --> 02:46:10,560
series of

3775
02:46:14,309 --> 02:46:12,720
initiations and we give them study

3776
02:46:17,030 --> 02:46:14,319
materials

3777
02:46:19,750 --> 02:46:17,040
and uh over the space of a couple years

3778
02:46:22,150 --> 02:46:19,760
if they stick with it then uh eventually

3779
02:46:23,590 --> 02:46:22,160
we'll knight them as a templar

3780
02:46:25,590 --> 02:46:23,600
and

3781
02:46:27,190 --> 02:46:25,600
they can start to participate in the

3782
02:46:28,469 --> 02:46:27,200
work that we're doing

3783
02:46:31,510 --> 02:46:28,479
are there

3784
02:46:33,510 --> 02:46:31,520
you know we always you know third degree

3785
02:46:35,190 --> 02:46:33,520
mason you know and i became a third

3786
02:46:37,429 --> 02:46:35,200
degree mason that was the toughest part

3787
02:46:39,190 --> 02:46:37,439
for me to go through and i got to that

3788
02:46:42,230 --> 02:46:39,200
and then i had different

3789
02:46:43,510 --> 02:46:42,240
uh avenues in front of me uh that i

3790
02:46:46,070 --> 02:46:43,520
could choose

3791
02:46:48,630 --> 02:46:46,080
and one of them is the knights templar

3792
02:46:51,030 --> 02:46:48,640
am i correct in stating it that way yeah

3793
02:46:53,190 --> 02:46:51,040
sure yeah there's like in freemasonry

3794
02:46:54,870 --> 02:46:53,200
there's the york ride or the scottish

3795
02:46:57,190 --> 02:46:54,880
ride or

3796
02:46:59,269 --> 02:46:57,200
if you live in you know many germanic

3797
02:47:02,150 --> 02:46:59,279
speaking countries

3798
02:47:04,309 --> 02:47:02,160
there's also the swedish right

3799
02:47:06,870 --> 02:47:04,319
but all of these are higher degrees of

3800
02:47:08,150 --> 02:47:06,880
freemasonry and in all of them they all

3801
02:47:11,190 --> 02:47:08,160
culminate

3802
02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:11,200
to a templar degree

3803
02:47:16,230 --> 02:47:13,600
in the york rite it culminates to a

3804
02:47:18,469 --> 02:47:16,240
night templar degree in the scottish

3805
02:47:21,349 --> 02:47:18,479
rite it culminates into what's known as

3806
02:47:23,510 --> 02:47:21,359
a night kadosh degree which is just

3807
02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:23,520
means holy night which is a knight

3808
02:47:27,670 --> 02:47:25,520
templar

3809
02:47:29,429 --> 02:47:27,680
in the swedish rite they they pretty

3810
02:47:33,429 --> 02:47:29,439
much tell you right from the beginning

3811
02:47:36,070 --> 02:47:33,439
you're joining blur organization

3812
02:47:37,190 --> 02:47:36,080
and uh

3813
02:47:40,070 --> 02:47:37,200
yeah i mean

3814
02:47:42,870 --> 02:47:40,080
there there are levels uh

3815
02:47:45,269 --> 02:47:42,880
and with each level or each degree there

3816
02:47:49,750 --> 02:47:45,279
you're given more

3817
02:47:53,349 --> 02:47:49,760
things to study more

3818
02:47:58,710 --> 02:47:53,359
uh philosophical ideas um

3819
02:48:00,790 --> 02:47:58,720
and uh some of these orders are co-ed

3820
02:48:04,309 --> 02:48:00,800
you can see the question here

3821
02:48:05,269 --> 02:48:04,319
can a woman can women can't can woman i

3822
02:48:08,469 --> 02:48:05,279
think

3823
02:48:11,510 --> 02:48:08,479
uh can one can women be knights yeah for

3824
02:48:14,389 --> 02:48:11,520
sure absolutely uh in fact traditionally

3825
02:48:16,309 --> 02:48:14,399
historically there were women templars

3826
02:48:17,990 --> 02:48:16,319
in fact even huda paynes who was the

3827
02:48:19,910 --> 02:48:18,000
first grand master of the knights

3828
02:48:22,710 --> 02:48:19,920
templar his wife

3829
02:48:24,550 --> 02:48:22,720
was catherine de sinclair and she was

3830
02:48:26,870 --> 02:48:24,560
also a templar

3831
02:48:28,630 --> 02:48:26,880
uh and she was the cousin of kaithian

3832
02:48:31,510 --> 02:48:28,640
detroit who was

3833
02:48:32,309 --> 02:48:31,520
wrote one of the first grail legends

3834
02:48:34,389 --> 02:48:32,319
uh

3835
02:48:36,710 --> 02:48:34,399
you know on the legends of the holy

3836
02:48:39,110 --> 02:48:36,720
grail and and uh but there were there

3837
02:48:42,469 --> 02:48:39,120
were women preceptors

3838
02:48:44,309 --> 02:48:42,479
uh there were you know they weren't just

3839
02:48:46,710 --> 02:48:44,319
in the kitchen they were they were

3840
02:48:48,070 --> 02:48:46,720
actually participating with all of the

3841
02:48:51,590 --> 02:48:48,080
activities

3842
02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:51,600
and that continues to this day i mean uh

3843
02:48:55,349 --> 02:48:53,279
certainly if if you were to join the

3844
02:48:58,630 --> 02:48:55,359
templar collegiate

3845
02:49:01,190 --> 02:48:58,640
there are men and women who are involved

3846
02:49:02,309 --> 02:49:01,200
in it uh same with

3847
02:49:04,309 --> 02:49:02,319
other

3848
02:49:07,190 --> 02:49:04,319
expressions of it like different

3849
02:49:09,429 --> 02:49:07,200
rosicrucian and martinis and

3850
02:49:12,309 --> 02:49:09,439
unknown philosopher

3851
02:49:15,110 --> 02:49:12,319
lineages they they allow women in it

3852
02:49:17,190 --> 02:49:15,120
there are there are co-masonic bodies

3853
02:49:18,950 --> 02:49:17,200
and there are also women only

3854
02:49:21,670 --> 02:49:18,960
freemasonry

3855
02:49:22,870 --> 02:49:21,680
so absolutely women could be involved in

3856
02:49:25,510 --> 02:49:22,880
it

3857
02:49:27,190 --> 02:49:25,520
at what point this was

3858
02:49:28,950 --> 02:49:27,200
that's what everybody wants to know at

3859
02:49:32,270 --> 02:49:28,960
what point

3860
02:49:33,510 --> 02:49:32,280
do i get into the back room

3861
02:49:36,710 --> 02:49:33,520
[Music]

3862
02:49:40,710 --> 02:49:36,720
well i mean uh

3863
02:49:42,469 --> 02:49:40,720
you know pretty pretty soon i mean

3864
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:42,479
no i mean if i'd become a knight's

3865
02:49:47,510 --> 02:49:44,240
templar yeah

3866
02:49:49,750 --> 02:49:47,520
when when does tim go okay church now

3867
02:49:52,150 --> 02:49:49,760
you want to see some cool stuff

3868
02:49:54,630 --> 02:49:52,160
oh pretty much right away i mean

3869
02:49:57,510 --> 02:49:54,640
right away you'll start studying stuff

3870
02:50:00,389 --> 02:49:57,520
that'll blow your mind away

3871
02:50:03,510 --> 02:50:00,399
uh and then you know we there it's all

3872
02:50:05,750 --> 02:50:03,520
designed to be practical so that like if

3873
02:50:08,469 --> 02:50:05,760
we if we talk about alchemy we're not

3874
02:50:11,429 --> 02:50:08,479
just talking about alchemical theory

3875
02:50:14,230 --> 02:50:11,439
we're actually teaching you how to

3876
02:50:15,590 --> 02:50:14,240
perform alchemical operations

3877
02:50:22,389 --> 02:50:15,600
um

3878
02:50:23,110 --> 02:50:22,399
yeah

3879
02:50:26,710 --> 02:50:23,120
and

3880
02:50:30,389 --> 02:50:26,720
go ahead eventually eventually you learn

3881
02:50:32,469 --> 02:50:30,399
about where some of these vaults are and

3882
02:50:36,550 --> 02:50:32,479
we do have a responsibility still to

3883
02:50:37,990 --> 02:50:36,560
protect them i mean if if god forbid

3884
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:38,000
uh

3885
02:50:43,030 --> 02:50:40,720
you know the wrong people like

3886
02:50:44,950 --> 02:50:43,040
something like uh al qaeda or something

3887
02:50:47,110 --> 02:50:44,960
where that were to try to

3888
02:50:49,269 --> 02:50:47,120
try to raid one of these vaults or the

3889
02:50:51,349 --> 02:50:49,279
vatican which the vatican is is

3890
02:50:53,429 --> 02:50:51,359
absolutely tried to raid some of these

3891
02:50:57,510 --> 02:50:53,439
vaults in fact even recently the the

3892
02:51:03,429 --> 02:50:57,520
vatican tried to raid one of the vaults

3893
02:51:06,790 --> 02:51:05,830
deal with it um and and some of that

3894
02:51:09,030 --> 02:51:06,800
maybe

3895
02:51:11,510 --> 02:51:09,040
mean moving some of the artifacts to a

3896
02:51:12,230 --> 02:51:11,520
new location

3897
02:51:13,910 --> 02:51:12,240
uh

3898
02:51:16,070 --> 02:51:13,920
what was the

3899
02:51:18,630 --> 02:51:16,080
i want to go back to dan brown who was

3900
02:51:20,230 --> 02:51:18,640
the dude that was white what was the

3901
02:51:22,230 --> 02:51:20,240
name of the organization that he

3902
02:51:24,469 --> 02:51:22,240
represented with the value he was he was

3903
02:51:27,190 --> 02:51:24,479
with um

3904
02:51:29,830 --> 02:51:27,200
he was with uh

3905
02:51:32,550 --> 02:51:29,840
uh during a belief how how did we forget

3906
02:51:35,030 --> 02:51:32,560
that so quick yeah yeah i've got a story

3907
02:51:37,429 --> 02:51:35,040
on planet earth for five years

3908
02:51:39,830 --> 02:51:37,439
yeah um all right i keep wanting to say

3909
02:51:42,710 --> 02:51:39,840
agnes day but it's

3910
02:51:44,790 --> 02:51:42,720
baby the lamb of god yeah this day it

3911
02:51:47,110 --> 02:51:44,800
was open day open

3912
02:51:48,309 --> 02:51:47,120
yeah you were close you were close yeah

3913
02:51:50,790 --> 02:51:48,319
um

3914
02:51:54,070 --> 02:51:50,800
that that has to be a concern right

3915
02:51:56,070 --> 02:51:54,080
it is it absolutely is in fact i i can

3916
02:51:58,950 --> 02:51:56,080
tell you right now

3917
02:52:02,150 --> 02:51:58,960
uh only a few years ago there is a vault

3918
02:52:05,910 --> 02:52:02,160
that still exists in istanbul and we

3919
02:52:09,269 --> 02:52:05,920
have templars who are uh

3920
02:52:11,750 --> 02:52:09,279
with in charge of

3921
02:52:13,990 --> 02:52:11,760
the um

3922
02:52:16,950 --> 02:52:14,000
you know the monuments there in in

3923
02:52:19,830 --> 02:52:16,960
istanbul and they work for the the the

3924
02:52:21,429 --> 02:52:19,840
turkish government and

3925
02:52:23,910 --> 02:52:21,439
uh they

3926
02:52:26,870 --> 02:52:23,920
ended up hearing uh

3927
02:52:28,469 --> 02:52:26,880
jackhammers basically coming from under

3928
02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:28,479
the street level

3929
02:52:32,309 --> 02:52:30,160
and they knew somebody was trying to

3930
02:52:36,389 --> 02:52:32,319
break into these vaults and sure enough

3931
02:52:38,630 --> 02:52:36,399
they discovered that the vatican had

3932
02:52:39,990 --> 02:52:38,640
dug a tunnel from one of the hotels

3933
02:52:42,389 --> 02:52:40,000
nearby

3934
02:52:44,870 --> 02:52:42,399
they'd found where the this

3935
02:52:47,030 --> 02:52:44,880
vault was and had where there's uh

3936
02:52:49,190 --> 02:52:47,040
certain artifacts and

3937
02:52:52,950 --> 02:52:49,200
they had were trying to break into the

3938
02:52:54,790 --> 02:52:52,960
vault and fortunately the stone

3939
02:52:57,349 --> 02:52:54,800
that the vault

3940
02:52:59,990 --> 02:52:57,359
containing the stall the the

3941
02:53:02,309 --> 02:53:00,000
the artifacts was a really hard stone

3942
02:53:05,590 --> 02:53:02,319
that's referred to as zeus stone because

3943
02:53:07,110 --> 02:53:05,600
it's so hard to break into and

3944
02:53:09,110 --> 02:53:07,120
so they weren't able to they weren't

3945
02:53:10,870 --> 02:53:09,120
able to break through to it but you know

3946
02:53:11,830 --> 02:53:10,880
this type of thing still happens to this

3947
02:53:14,309 --> 02:53:11,840
day

3948
02:53:17,510 --> 02:53:14,319
and in fact i i would even

3949
02:53:23,110 --> 02:53:19,910
and this is somewhat speculation on my

3950
02:53:26,550 --> 02:53:23,120
part but i think it's a safe speculation

3951
02:53:29,510 --> 02:53:26,560
uh when you saw that fire at notre dame

3952
02:53:31,750 --> 02:53:29,520
cathedral and you saw those fires at all

3953
02:53:34,710 --> 02:53:31,760
of those cathedrals in

3954
02:53:36,550 --> 02:53:34,720
france around that same time at other

3955
02:53:37,710 --> 02:53:36,560
cathedrals

3956
02:53:40,070 --> 02:53:37,720
and uh

3957
02:53:43,429 --> 02:53:40,080
coincidentally the same

3958
02:53:44,950 --> 02:53:43,439
day that the notre dame of paris caught

3959
02:53:47,110 --> 02:53:44,960
on fire

3960
02:53:50,550 --> 02:53:47,120
the former templar commander in

3961
02:53:52,070 --> 02:53:50,560
jerusalem also caught on fire

3962
02:53:55,349 --> 02:53:52,080
um

3963
02:53:56,950 --> 02:53:55,359
it it looks to me like it was probably

3964
02:53:59,190 --> 02:53:56,960
the roman church

3965
02:54:01,670 --> 02:53:59,200
setting these things on fire so that

3966
02:54:04,309 --> 02:54:01,680
they could um

3967
02:54:06,710 --> 02:54:04,319
dig around in these monuments they could

3968
02:54:08,630 --> 02:54:06,720
close them to the public and start uh

3969
02:54:10,389 --> 02:54:08,640
digging around in them because you know

3970
02:54:12,870 --> 02:54:10,399
they thought that there might be vaults

3971
02:54:14,230 --> 02:54:12,880
contained within these cathedrals

3972
02:54:16,469 --> 02:54:14,240
even though anything that was in these

3973
02:54:19,990 --> 02:54:16,479
cathedrals had already been moved

3974
02:54:22,469 --> 02:54:20,000
right right right um a couple of last q

3975
02:54:25,429 --> 02:54:22,479
quick questions uh you put the number at

3976
02:54:28,870 --> 02:54:25,439
10 of the original arcs yeah

3977
02:54:31,429 --> 02:54:28,880
six are in uh the knights templar

3978
02:54:34,550 --> 02:54:31,439
possession what are the four

3979
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:34,560
um there are

3980
02:54:38,309 --> 02:54:36,160
two

3981
02:54:40,070 --> 02:54:38,319
well there are three that we think we

3982
02:54:41,349 --> 02:54:40,080
know where they are

3983
02:54:44,870 --> 02:54:41,359
uh one

3984
02:54:46,870 --> 02:54:44,880
may be in ethiopia one may be buried

3985
02:54:49,830 --> 02:54:46,880
under this lake

3986
02:54:52,550 --> 02:54:49,840
and one of them may still be in egypt on

3987
02:54:55,670 --> 02:54:52,560
a on an island in egypt

3988
02:54:58,630 --> 02:54:55,680
um so that's the other those are three

3989
02:55:00,309 --> 02:54:58,640
other ones but uh

3990
02:55:02,630 --> 02:55:00,319
but we don't know where the

3991
02:55:06,150 --> 02:55:02,640
the last one is

3992
02:55:07,750 --> 02:55:06,160
very interesting um and uh

3993
02:55:09,030 --> 02:55:07,760
today

3994
02:55:11,590 --> 02:55:09,040
uh

3995
02:55:13,670 --> 02:55:11,600
with the establishment of the knights

3996
02:55:14,710 --> 02:55:13,680
templar in the organization that is

3997
02:55:17,429 --> 02:55:14,720
there

3998
02:55:19,510 --> 02:55:17,439
um how does somebody

3999
02:55:20,710 --> 02:55:19,520
uh reach out directly

4000
02:55:23,110 --> 02:55:20,720
a to

4001
02:55:25,030 --> 02:55:23,120
the knights templar but b if they are

4002
02:55:28,150 --> 02:55:25,040
interested in finding out more what's

4003
02:55:31,990 --> 02:55:28,160
the best spot oh they could go to www

4004
02:55:36,150 --> 02:55:33,269
and uh

4005
02:55:38,550 --> 02:55:36,160
they can send a

4006
02:55:41,830 --> 02:55:38,560
you know the if they go there they'll

4007
02:55:45,110 --> 02:55:41,840
there'll be an email that they can send

4008
02:55:47,349 --> 02:55:45,120
you know to to request more information

4009
02:55:49,349 --> 02:55:47,359
and the the grand secretary will get

4010
02:55:50,630 --> 02:55:49,359
back to them and then

4011
02:55:52,950 --> 02:55:50,640
you know

4012
02:55:54,550 --> 02:55:52,960
if they want to start that path we can

4013
02:55:59,110 --> 02:55:54,560
make it happen for them

4014
02:56:01,750 --> 02:55:59,120
do you feel that uh in speaking out uh

4015
02:56:03,830 --> 02:56:01,760
and and sharing this information do you

4016
02:56:07,030 --> 02:56:03,840
feel threatened

4017
02:56:10,230 --> 02:56:07,040
there have been times yeah uh i i'll

4018
02:56:12,950 --> 02:56:10,240
i'll admit i mean i've been uh

4019
02:56:13,830 --> 02:56:12,960
i've encountered some pretty

4020
02:56:15,510 --> 02:56:13,840
rough

4021
02:56:17,190 --> 02:56:15,520
times uh

4022
02:56:19,590 --> 02:56:17,200
in the past uh

4023
02:56:21,990 --> 02:56:19,600
i've been shot at i've been stabbed and

4024
02:56:24,870 --> 02:56:22,000
i've been poisoned at different times in

4025
02:56:27,670 --> 02:56:24,880
the past uh

4026
02:56:31,269 --> 02:56:27,680
and in fact uh

4027
02:56:33,990 --> 02:56:31,279
not too long ago i i was even attacked i

4028
02:56:35,910 --> 02:56:34,000
was at the area of balbec in in lebanon

4029
02:56:40,630 --> 02:56:35,920
and uh

4030
02:56:44,230 --> 02:56:40,640
uh we were we were attacked there so um

4031
02:56:48,309 --> 02:56:44,240
yeah i mean there's been times where

4032
02:56:53,510 --> 02:56:50,870
it it can be challenging for sure there

4033
02:56:57,590 --> 02:56:53,520
there are all kinds of groups that that

4034
02:57:02,150 --> 02:56:59,510
well i appreciate this conversation

4035
02:57:05,830 --> 02:57:02,160
tonight tim it was great and

4036
02:57:09,110 --> 02:57:05,840
um uh i i'm just gonna let everybody

4037
02:57:12,710 --> 02:57:09,120
know we were able to break bread and and

4038
02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:12,720
and hang out and and have an amazing uh

4039
02:57:17,190 --> 02:57:13,600
dinner

4040
02:57:19,110 --> 02:57:17,200
uh over this weekend and wow i mean

4041
02:57:22,070 --> 02:57:19,120
we had a lot of we had a lot of powerful

4042
02:57:23,510 --> 02:57:22,080
minds at that table didn't we and

4043
02:57:25,349 --> 02:57:23,520
the conversation

4044
02:57:28,230 --> 02:57:25,359
uh that went around

4045
02:57:29,830 --> 02:57:28,240
but everybody just wanted to talk to you

4046
02:57:32,469 --> 02:57:29,840
and we're talking about some pretty

4047
02:57:35,590 --> 02:57:32,479
strong people were at that table

4048
02:57:38,790 --> 02:57:35,600
and and and i got to say that

4049
02:57:41,190 --> 02:57:38,800
you you you were and have been uh very

4050
02:57:42,389 --> 02:57:41,200
open about these subjects that

4051
02:57:44,710 --> 02:57:42,399
just don't

4052
02:57:47,190 --> 02:57:44,720
just haven't been openly discussed in

4053
02:57:49,670 --> 02:57:47,200
the past and i really want to thank you

4054
02:57:51,429 --> 02:57:49,680
tonight and it was just an amazing

4055
02:57:53,349 --> 02:57:51,439
amazing conversation thank you so much

4056
02:57:55,349 --> 02:57:53,359
and i can't wait for the next one well

4057
02:57:58,630 --> 02:57:55,359
thank you i can't wait for it too it's

4058
02:58:00,630 --> 02:57:58,640
it'll be it'll be the timing jimmy show

4059
02:58:02,550 --> 02:58:00,640
thank you so much tim i want you to be

4060
02:58:06,389 --> 02:58:02,560
safe out there keep rolling that rock

4061
02:58:08,710 --> 02:58:06,399
uphill uh the world is in a very strange

4062
02:58:10,870 --> 02:58:08,720
place right now we all know that

4063
02:58:12,950 --> 02:58:10,880
and we do need to be brought together

4064
02:58:14,230 --> 02:58:12,960
and just thank you for that

4065
02:58:16,870 --> 02:58:14,240
yeah thank you

4066
02:58:19,269 --> 02:58:16,880
tim behave and be well you too thank you

4067
02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:19,279
so much for having me you're the best

4068
02:58:24,550 --> 02:58:21,840
timothy hogan and with that i'm gonna

4069
02:58:27,670 --> 02:58:24,560
get out of here uh what a great week uh

4070
02:58:29,750 --> 02:58:27,680
so far on on fade to black and and i

4071
02:58:31,510 --> 02:58:29,760
want to thank tim hogan uh for taking

4072
02:58:34,790 --> 02:58:31,520
the time tonight to

4073
02:58:37,110 --> 02:58:34,800
uh to be very uh open and free with his

4074
02:58:39,830 --> 02:58:37,120
knowledge there's so much more

4075
02:58:42,389 --> 02:58:39,840
to get to and we will do it in future

4076
02:58:45,110 --> 02:58:42,399
shows i promise you that and uh tomorrow

4077
02:58:47,429 --> 02:58:45,120
night uh rick doty is going to be here

4078
02:58:49,110 --> 02:58:47,439
rick is is also going to be talking

4079
02:58:50,070 --> 02:58:49,120
about some pretty sensitive subjects

4080
02:58:52,389 --> 02:58:50,080
which is

4081
02:58:54,630 --> 02:58:52,399
misinformation and disinformation that

4082
02:58:57,510 --> 02:58:54,640
may be going on right now

4083
02:59:00,550 --> 02:58:57,520
in our ufo community

4084
02:59:02,469 --> 02:59:00,560
and ufology in general

4085
02:59:03,830 --> 02:59:02,479
great week on fade to black thursday

4086
02:59:06,710 --> 02:59:03,840
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4087
02:59:10,150 --> 02:59:06,720
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4088
02:59:12,309 --> 02:59:10,160
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4089
02:59:14,950 --> 02:59:12,319
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4090
02:59:17,269 --> 02:59:14,960
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4091
02:59:19,830 --> 02:59:17,279
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4092
02:59:22,150 --> 02:59:19,840
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4093
02:59:24,309 --> 02:59:22,160
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4094
02:59:26,469 --> 02:59:24,319
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4095
02:59:28,469 --> 02:59:26,479
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4096
02:59:30,550 --> 02:59:28,479
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4097
02:59:32,389 --> 02:59:30,560
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4098
02:59:34,469 --> 02:59:32,399
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4099
02:59:36,150 --> 02:59:34,479
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4100
02:59:37,750 --> 02:59:36,160
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4101
02:59:39,110 --> 02:59:37,760
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4102
02:59:41,030 --> 02:59:39,120
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4103
02:59:43,349 --> 02:59:41,040
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4104
02:59:46,309 --> 02:59:43,359
until tomorrow night with rick dodie i

4105
02:59:52,680 --> 02:59:46,319
want everybody to be safe